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Darius needs help. Ideas on changes to give him some love?

Discussion in 'League of Legends (MOBA)' started by ChrisM53, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. ChrisM53

    ChrisM53 Active Member
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    Darius is without a doubt plagued with issues. Sure his kit can function? But only in extremely niche situations, and he brings nothing to the table whatsoever that makes him a "PICK" above any other champion. Looking for discussion and thought out ideas on what could be removed, added, or changed to help this champion out. I love choosing him at champ select, and I cry after the defeat sign =/.

    I look forward to the discussion this thread could create =D.
     
    #1 ChrisM53, Jun 9, 2015
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    troutski Well-Known Member
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    Can we remove him altogether? I've had minor success with him.
     
    #2 troutski, Jun 9, 2015
  3. tubestud

    tubestud Well-Known Member
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    I think he could benefit from some utility. A silence maybe? A stun after a buildup of some kind. Or a way to consume stacks on enemies to remove CCs from himself.
     
    #3 tubestud, Jun 9, 2015
  4. ChrisM53

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    That would not be a bad idea at all. Maybe develop some kinda of different ways to consume the stacks, other than just mindlessly getting the stacks to increase ult dmg. Would also make players pay attention more because at 5 stacks, the next ability you would use on the opponent would consume them. Though now that would leave weird and conflicting issues with the synergy of his ult and the rest of his kit. His ult would either wise have to be re-worked, or maybe a secondary stacking de-buff, one that stacks the exact same as the bleed debuffs but instead is strictly stacked for the purposes of the ult dmg increase, and maaybe the move speed increase as well. Name is "advantage"? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense that because Darius; opponent is bleeding, that he wants to run around faster xD.
     
    #4 ChrisM53, Jun 9, 2015
  5. AmenoKaji

    AmenoKaji Well-Known Member
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    I thought they were making changes to him or did make changes to him recently. He still feels strong to me as a lane bully but it has to beinto a certain matchup. Against the current tank meta he is kind of useless but so are a lot of other champions. Thanks Rito.
     
    #5 AmenoKaji, Jun 9, 2015
  6. Burt Povski

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    I hate Darius. He can snowball pretty well. If he's doing well, he can kill everyone. If he's doing bad, he becomes nearly useless in the game. Overall I dislike him. He is really strong but seems to get kited from ranged champs really easily. If Darius gets buffed in any way, he will be extremely OP for sure.
     
    #6 Burt Povski, Jun 9, 2015
  7. rightct

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    Nerf his ultimate!!! Nah, not really, I'm joking. What would really help Darius in his current situation is if we brought some more disabling abilities to his kit. I'm pretty sure that the fact he hasn't got even one gap close can't be left unnoticed by Rito, right? Come on...
     
    #7 rightct, Jun 26, 2015
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    FuZyOn Well-Known Member
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    He's in a really weird spot right now and I don't know what would benefit him. He lacks utility, yes, and that makes him really bad when you compare him to what's played today.
    I think that he needs to have a much better initiate skill.
     
    #8 FuZyOn, Jun 27, 2015
  9. thecorinthian

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    Well, what's good about Darius is atleast he's really tanky and he can do two ss. That bleed isn't bad but yeah I get it, late game he doesn't do much so I just tank him and let my AP or ADR do the work. It's all about teamwork right?
     
    #9 thecorinthian, Jul 24, 2015
  10. Darce

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    I really like Darius' theme, so I think they should keep that as it is. He's strong now, he's a lane bully and can work in some compositions (maybe with a Lulu mid and a CC-support jungler?) but it's kind of ridiculous how easily he can be kited. I don't think he should default to a more tanky role, I'd like him to fit better into a splitpushing duelist or something.
     
    #10 Darce, Jul 24, 2015
  11. Shimus

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    Darius just suffers from super high cooldowns and mana usage until 10ish+, so it's really hard to successfully have an early game dominance without help from partners or laners from a different lane. This is not very effective, so in order to "Re-Kit" him (I don't think his moves need changed, honestly - just their utility, like above) could consume stacks of his bleed to remove ccs+small heal or cc reducer+Silence or something.

    Just something to make the darius players do more then just use a kit and run away. The added "I need to bleed someone and then this someone" is nice, because it keeps you auto-attacking and not pussing out, and it gives added benefits of being helpful.
     
    #11 Shimus, Jul 24, 2015
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