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Drugs

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Darkbringer, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Darkbringer

    Darkbringer Huntsman

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    Ok I found a few videos on this subject that seems to prove everything I've been told wrong. Instead of me explaining, why don't you see it yourselves?
    Weed:
    [YOUTUBE]L_4hYTKaf1U&feature=plcp[/YOUTUBE]
    Drugs in general:
    [YOUTUBE]agPjGkOb9D8&feature=plcp[/YOUTUBE]
    And also in the comments for one of the videos, a guy claims the US sprayed marijuana plants with toxins, but the plants didn't die and made the smokers sick instead?
     
  2. I fully support people killing themselves. Take more drugs people.
     
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    what the hell, someone actually tried to smoke banana peels?xD
     
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    Life if the most dangerous drug of all. It'll kill you!
     
  5. Von Streff

    Von Streff Well-Known Member
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    If you've ever spoken to or seen a drug addict, I think it's pretty clear that there's something not right... I'm not even going to go into the millions of arguments which are already out there.
     
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    I agree. But surely everybody's addicted to something. Coffee, cigarettes, fast-food, adrenaline rushes, work, sex, candy, softdrinks, ... We are all diseased.
     
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    I'M HIGH ON LIFE, MAAAN!
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    Sorry, it would happen soon enough anyway, and I just had to.

    Well, I'd say something intelligent and logical about drugs, or what I think about drugs, but I really don't have anything to say about either of 'em, so I'll just say that the picture is enough for now. :)
     
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    Drugs effect every single person differently, so it's highly irrational to make a biased statement or opinion about them. If you have done them or you haven't, you will not be able to form a rational opinion on them that someone else will be able to believe wholeheartedly. It is for this reason that you should take everything someone tells you about drugs with a grain of salt.

    Personally, I will never try uppers. Drugs that elevate the heart rate such as cocaine or other intense drugs can fuck with your heart, and as I already have a few heart conditions I stay away from them. (Never tried them.)

    I've smoked weed for a long time until recently. Last summer it began to give me anxiety, and my mind would over-think the smallest things, and my mind would race and I wouldn't be able to relax - which is the one thing that weed had done to me so many times before. It is non-habit forming so I don't feel bad about not doing it anymore. This directly relates to what I said about drugs doing different things for different people.

    As for hallucinogens, I have yet to try them but would not mind doing so. I do however want to wait until I am in a better state of mind, as hallucinogens really depend on who you're with and how you're feeling when you take them. They should truly be done when you're in your core group of friends, where you feel the most comfortable.

    All of that being said, you won't know what you enjoy and what you don't until you experiment. I am not advocating the use of drugs by any means, but I am saying you won't know what is what unless you see for yourself.

    /rant
     
  10. Wolve_NZ

    Wolve_NZ Well-Known Member

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    So true, I just started with the Causal weed with some mates, and its nothing serious. Its Hard drugs and abuse of drugs. Its like getting piss faced and driving, it wont end well. Or getting really stoned and driving wont go well either

    Its missuse that is bad. but I know where my limit is, and stay below it for a nice buzz.
     
  11. Jet Odessa

    Jet Odessa Mutant Hunter Extraordinaire

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    been there, done that, got the t-shirt. many years ago, when I was about 20-21, I used cocaine and speed, and also weed, for about a year. after a while, I started to steal from my parents. that was the day I stoped. I'm 47 yrso now, nearly 48, and worked as a drug counsellor in HMP Holloway, north london, for a few years. have seen the damage drugs do, not only to the individual, but to the families as well. I'm not talking about hard drugs only, but weed and alcohol as well. young women, their lives wrecked because of it. getting clean in prison and the moment they go out the gate, their dealer is waiting for them with their next dose. kids in foster care 'cause their mothers are in prison due to drugs and/or alcohol. ppl sentenced to life 'cause they killed some1 in a drug fuelled rampage, or just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    no, for me drugs are the worst there is. I don't need them, neither want them. I'm tea-total now since 2007. yes, I do smoke roll up tobacco, and I know it is also a drug and that I am addicted to it, been smoking since I was 12 yrso. but apart from that, nothing else.

    mind you, I've heard all kind of circumstances and horror stories about what lead these women to drugs, and I'm sure some of them are sincere when they say the want to give up. two of the clients I had while working in Holloway were murdered by the suffolk strangler, another one died of an overdose the day after leaving prison.

    as I said, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. in the end, drugs controll you, no matter how much you think you can control them, it is them that end up controlling you.
     
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    In my country, in the provinces actually, there are some people, 'vigilantes' for lack of a better term, that go around at night 'cleaning up' the 'garbage'. This was told to me by my parents who knew of friends that were victims of this sort of thing: In the rural to rurban areas, you can occasionally notice a fluctuation of drug addicts, one week they're proliferating, the next they're all gone. That's when you start seeing the slit necks, ice-picked bodies with signs saying "I'm a drug addict" hung on them. To make it worse, most people, police included, hardly caring, in their minds that poor junkie deserved to die. Because of being a junkie. That's why a lot of folks in our provinces are cleanly cut, newly shaven and the like; they don't want to be associated with the stereotypical 'junkie'-look (long, shaggy hair, a thick unshaven beard, think and lanky, sandals, a shirt or wife-beater, and torn jeans or basketball shorts)

    My dad told me once that he had friends on both sides, victims and perpetrators, and that he'd rather keep it to friends and not his sons (I was impressionable at the time, and still am), so he told me to as much as possible keep off it, for my own sake. In his own words: "It wasn't the overdose I should be afraid of; it's the blade of the man looking for his next dose and the anger of the vigilant who think I'm scum." Note: I do love knives. But only when they're in a display case or when I'm holding them to examine them. If it's in a do or die situation, I run away.
     
  13. Von Streff

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    I've heard many similar stories, though thankfully it's never happened to anyone I know. Stealing to support the addiction is very very widespread. Thanks for the post, Jet Odessa.
     
  14. Jet Odessa

    Jet Odessa Mutant Hunter Extraordinaire

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    no problem streff. just being honest. as I say, there is always a choice, to use or not to use. yes, if you are an addict, you will have to face withdrawl symptoms, but it can be done. I have been through 18 months hep c treatment hell, with side effects caused by the medication ranging from hair loss to constant tiredness and flu-like symptoms, every day. I never used iv drugs, just got unlucky with a tattoo. did I stop my treatment because of the awful physical side effects? no. I know lots of addicts that won't give up and get clean because they are afraid of the physical symptoms of doing so. I had the choice of not going through with treatment, but chose to do so. don't want to die from early liver failure. in the end my treatment didn't work, so I still have hep c, just wating to start another round.

    as I said, I call it as I see it. I believe we all have a 'click' momet in our life, where we radically change 'cause we finally realize the devastation it is causing. the thing is, some addicts will die before they reach that moment. drugs, to me are evil.
     
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    I don't use them,i never will.

    I find that being hooked on something that becomes you main reason to wake up at morning really is sad.
    Also,i don't want to give my money to the Mafia,which controls the whole market of drugs.
     
  16. Darkbringer

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    My opinion is that I'll probably try weed sooner or later, but I'll never go further than hash. The reason that I'll even consider it in the first place, is that I have family who's done it for some time, and they never got addicted and only smoked at rare occasions. They still do, and while one of them hasn't got a job yet (He's 19), the other one does both music and works at a kindergarten.

    It's actually a little weird for me, because I'm pretty sure I'll avoid cigarettes, because I think it's stupid - it only damages your lungs and empties your wallet. Now, weed, as an alternative to alcohol, might not be that bad, considering that you don't get headaches, and may drive while affected (I think :eek:hwell:). On the other hand, you won't be able to learn for the next 48 hours.
     
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  17. Wolve_NZ

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    If you think your gonna fall into the money pit that Weed and Tobbaco is, could try Alternatives. Recently Ive tried just regular tea, from what ive read, nothing bad for you apart from smoke, its not tar-y or mind effecting to the extent of Tobbaco and weed, and Dirt cheap too!

    But still not a reason to start doing it, i just do It sometimes as its a good break, gets rid of my headach without drugs