Gender discrimination in guilds

I haven't seen male/female-only guilds alot, but I've seen them a few times advertising here and there.

But just because the actual guilds aren't a majority, the attitudes linked to them are there all over the place. There's already another thread where OP is a female trying to handle different attention from males.

What I'm saying is there needs to be some attitude change, from the people that think excluding a certain gender will solve the problem, and a heads up to those who don't know what to make of these attitudes and behavior.

 

The question comes down to though -- are you talking all female characters // male characters? For roleplaying reasons there could certainly be guilds like that in games... OR are you talking all female or male players behind the characters (which is something completely different).

I think the latter is against the rules, or should be.

 

I was in a guild that adopted a no single females rule after multiple high drama incidents that split the group.

Wasn't really the woman's fault in every case, but the leadership valued the playing skills of male players more.

 

I have seen female char only guilds. But haven seen a girl only guild. But can understand their decision, because some males are really problematic. If is not the testosterone superiority, is the 24/7 harassment.

Yes not all women are good players, but neither are male. And some of the best healers I have seen in MMO have been girls.

 

It's quite common to form small groups and go by "us vs them" mentality so it's not surprising finding such guilds forming now that mmo's are mainstream and the player base has grown.

to me it's no different than all gay guilds or those that have language and nationality restrictions.

 

The only time I ever seen a gender specific guild was back during vanilla and TBC WoW. There was a guild called Japanese School Girls which was a hardcore PvP guild of females-only.

I am pretty indifferent to what people's policies for guild creation is, since no one is forced to join their guilds. I think it's pretty neat to have all-male and all-female guilds, so long as there are only a rare few of them around. Reason being that there is a sort of mysteriousness and controversy around them. It's like having a guild named "The Rainbow Club" made only of LGBT people. I would be totally fine with that.

It becomes bad if the discrimination is based off of bigotry and the uneducated. If the basis for their policies were founded for fun, that's fine for me. Of course, this is all within context and sensibility of the topic. There is nothing fun about racial discrimination if the the guild leader is a racist Aryan Supremacist whose primary objective is to cause grief for others carrying a racist guild name around, all under the guise of "We're just having fun."

 

I think the idea of gender discrimination in a video game is really stupid. We generally log into a game to have fun and play together. Apart from the fact that gender discrimination is very stupid in the real world as well, I think it has absolutely no place in an MMO. The idea is just primitive.

 

Well, you can't do really anything to a gender discrimination like this... I mean if it's decide by the player to be like so it's then right that it will be like they have decide. It would be another topic if the developer decided it, then it would become really unfair and nosense to me.

 

Just like in any other game, females are disconsidered. Doesn't surprise me much since this is how these boys have been leading their groups forever, and I don't expect them changing their mind any time soon.

 

It's not just any "game" lol. People do this everytime in society today, and it's been around for decades.

If you're a female and you were not allowed in a guild because it was male-only, you shouldn't join that guild anyway because it seems like it's full of jerks. That's a good red signal that everyone should consider. Guilds that are discriminating not only against race but gender as well are usually judgmental in the worst way possible too.

 

How is this not a valid reason ?
You can't stop people from being assholes/crybabies/you name it. The male-only guild scenario actually happens quite often.
In raids, people will stop doing their job just to literally chat away with the girls, I've seen this happen countless times and it's caused more fights/drama than it should ever have. Even if you kick everyone who does this out of the guild, there's always going to be SOME drama at a certain level, unless, of course, absolutely ALL the members are mature enough to be in contact with the opposite gender without putting them on a pedestal or harassing them. This should be the standard, and it feels like it should be common sense, but it really isn't.
The female-only scenario is actually perfectly reasonable as well. Girls can keep talking to male friends that they know and trust without having to deal with the male guildies who pester them all the time because they're 'super nice guys' and thus deserve recognition and attention (<- their line of thought.)

I personally have not and most likely will not join any of these guilds, but I can perfectly understand why one would do it. It's not about skill difference or anything, it's about the mentality. Keep in mind that most of these players in MMOs that you're getting in contact with are actually teenagers or people in their early twenties who make their life a mission to impress girls if they ever come across one. Obviously, some girls are also in that age range and will take any attention they get.

 

Yeah, this is usually the case. If you have a fairly big guild, more than likely you will have a few males who become stalkerish if they know there is a single female... and it is just a fine line.. for the guy, they probably think they are just being friendly, but the female finds it creepy. As a male, just listening to some of it in guild chat creeps me out. And as a guild-leader, it is impossible to enforce any type of rules against simply talking to someone.

So you end up with a lot of drama where you have to decide if the guy was being a stalker, or if he was just talking normally to a guildmate, and then how much of it was the female who was friendly back... up until the point she didn´t want to be friendly and reported the guy. It is just a razor-sharp edge, and you don´t want to be a guildmaster who needs to decide such things constantly.

 

Seriously? That stuff happens? I have not encountered these kinds of problems in my guilds yet. But the thought of a dude stalking a girl in a virtual environment is truly creepy.

 

While I personally wouldn't be apart of any guild that was "x-only", I can see and understand the reasons for them.