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Has WOW gotten Toxic?

Discussion in 'World of Warcraft' started by callmehomergade, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. callmehomergade

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    Lacking of any Mmo at the moment I decided to play some god old WoW.
    I leveled up and got in my first Hc 100 level dungeon in less than 3 days with a fresh new account.
    I observed that game got easier (probably the audience wished for) and lean towards single player experience.
    I had to block guild invites where I got whispered to join a guild with 600 ppl to be another droid. Because of whisper spam i blocked guild invites.
    When I started hc instance I observed toxicity with delusional bad behaved kids, which i never encountered in my 4 years of vanilla.
    From 3 Hc instances I finished 1 in which a full epic death knight player was bragging about the dps and being toxic comparing himself against dead afk people and blue geared ppl but he was really into it :D
    The other 2 instances a guy just troll pulled all mobs than he quit and swear or half team just rushing to fight when half team is dead... Total brainless
    What i seriously think that this new generation of kids lack of total discipline and sensitivity towards anything because of this brain washed materialistic world that we are living.
    Games use to be fun with meeting up new nice ppl or teaching noobs explaining them nicely what to do. This is part of the game a tiny bit of patient is needed sometimes and if you don't like this part stop playing in pugs lol and go with your full epic guild or whatever.
    From this moment I don't really hate any game companies by doing wow copy's and being uncreative and wanting only money because the audience couldn't even respect a true work at this stage.
    I know I'm a bit negative this days towards mmo-s but I won't start lying to myself and the only thing I can do with my frustration is just write here down share my thoughts, maybe I am doing something wrong here.
     
  2. ChrisM53

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    Don't really look for that "good feeling" in pugs, or LFG for that matter. There are still a ton of really good people out there. If you want to find a server you can enjoy yourself on, I would suggest heading to the forums and shopping. It sounds silly but you can really meet and speak with some people that will get you thinking "You know? These guys sound awesome =D!" Whether you are looking for RP, or just a good ol' family friendly guild with active members who invest in one another and enjoy the company and conversation. They are out there, just have to look a bit ;).
     
  3. Totalarmordestine

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    WoW has been toxic for years.

    This is nothing new. I played the first few years it was out then off and on again for another year or so. Then just quit one day and havent logged in since.

    Like most games you Need a good guild to really enjoy the game. If you want to play WoW search around for a guild of like minded people and play strictly with them. If you are going solo and using the LFG tools for Pugs then expect to have one bad experience after another.
     
  4. tarverten

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    The toxic community is why I quit WoW. I know all games have their epeen draggers but WoW is on a totally different level.
     
  5. blastguardgear

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    Can't judge one game with millions and millions of players off of 1-2 bad experiences.

    I've had many, many more than 1-2 bad experiences with toxic players, but I've had 10x that amount in good experiences too.
     
  6. thepieeatingjay

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    On a toxicity level I would give WoW about a 6, with LOTRO being 1, and Tera being 10. I usually play on Role Playing Servers on WoW though, where the community seems more into gaming than bashing or spamming one another.
     
  7. shadowsupernature

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    The heroics are ok, my only gripe with WoD instances is Blizz are pushing old content on us in 6.2's timewalking rather than make a batch of new instances. A Hellfire raid might be enough I suppose, but one raid a batch of new instances does not make.

    The main 'toxic' thing I truly find about WoD is garrisons. I manage a few now and they are starting to become a rut. But they are good ways to make gold for WoW Tokens. Rhetorically I often ask myself should I just walk and play a f2p rather than PLEX it with a token? Life didn't seem so complicated in the Prancing Pony at Bree in Lord Of The Rings Online, I actually even enjoyed myself, heaven forbid. Should I return to that f2p? (rhetorical question) Probably not, I know I will stick around to make gold in WoW and try out 6.2's raid. But that toxicity from the garrison's, I'm melting mellllltinnnng.
     
  8. Azrile

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    I never had much of a problem in game with toxic players. Every once in awhile you will get a jerk in LFR, or very very rarely in heroic dungeons ( but it is easy to kick them there, especially since I am a tank).

    The forums, especially 3rd party forums are a nightmare though. So many entitled little brats that act like they are game developers.
     
  9. Kennypie

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    As with most games, the most fun you will probably have is by playing with friends or even people who you have met through the game that you know won't ruin your experience. When I raid or do dungeons with players from my guild I know I will have fun and the environment won't be toxic. When I have done dungeons by myself I have seen a bit of toxicity, mainly when it comes to new players not necessarily knowing what to do for an encounter. I am the type of person who will try to explain the encounter to them so we can get through it but I know others are not as patient. Overall, I have not seen too much toxicity, so I guess I am lucky in that regard. I would suggest trying to make some friends in the game and finding people who don't mind helping you learn the aspects of the game.
     
  10. tinybutnotfangless

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    The group and player dynamics of WoW has been there from the first day WoW came out back in 2004. This isn't something that is new.

    I have learned over the years that it's best to play with friends or people that you trust, than to randomly go into dungeons. In the last few years, I stopped doing random dungeons, unless my guild mates required an extra one or two other fillers for the party.
     
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    Perhaps a little more toxic, but I think that's come with the game getting easier with each expansion. Its cake to gear up now and play. Both PVE and PVP are both easy to get in to and just take some time to completely learn.

    I'd put some time into finding a guild where you're a good fit in. Or see if you can get some of your RL friends into or back into the game. That will make the game a lot more enjoyable IMO
     
  12. shadowsupernature

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    You know, given some thought, what game ISN'T toxic online these days. The anonymous nature of the internet lets people act like total jerks without consequence. This isn't simply a WOW problem. It's an Every-game-that-goes-online problem.
     
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    It isn“t even games, it is the internet and being anonymous. I do think competitive games are the worse, especially ones where you PUG. To me, LOL is the absolute worst.
     
  14. GlacialDoom

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    Not really. A MMORPG's community varies really much. I mean, even now, you can find some really good and friendly players, and a minute later you can find someone who yells at you for being a "noob". This was the way it was in Vanilla too, and that's how it'll always be.
     
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    You need a good guild. This happens with all MMOs in my experience. I think it's the newer generation of kids and their "trolling" addiction. Everyone calls everyone a fag, a noob, ALL THE TIME. Annoying, most definitely. But if you find a guild with more mature individuals you'll have a good time. As for the leveling, well yes it is easier, they are trying to keep people playing and quick rewards are always appreciated by the new.
     
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    According to at least a handful of people, every game is toxic.
     
  17. FuZyOn

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    The game has been toxic since forever. Every big game that becomes mainstream is bound to have a mostly toxic community, since there are a lot of kids playing (adults can also be toxic, don't get me wrong).
     
  18. Supremegg

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    The game has been "toxic" since day one. You can always find useless guilds with hundreds of members just leveling up. However, thanks to dungeon finder you do not have to! You can queue up and level up and get gear without speaking 1 word to the other party members. Most of the people that I have encoutered are doing just that! The game is a lot less social nowadays and therefore there is less toxicity :p
     
  19. West

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    I never play WoW anymore unless I'm playing with my friends. The community is absolutely insufferable. Though, honestly, a lot of online games develop really crappy niche communities over time. It just personally feels to me like WoW's toxicity has become more mainstream.
     
  20. ISKMogul

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    All game communities have their issues with elitism and entitled behavior. The extent of it is a matter of how competitive and cutthroat the game itself becomes. The more serious the community in general takes a game, the more toxic the player's it attracts. Complex games also tend to attract a lot of people that are socially awkward and for whatever reason entitled. And it's again down to the community to self-police that kind of behavior in order for the game to see long-term success and growth. I tend to judge games very harshly if they fail to control reactionary and outright offensive behavior. I can't stand games where the community is crammed with bigoted 12 year-old idiots, or the people who are older than 12 but still act like children.