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Discussion in 'Elder Scrolls Online' started by Stiflex, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. Stiflex

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    So, let me get this whole chizz'nitch with The Elder Scrolls Online right. Since this game is ment to be played on consoles, I assume most people (such as me) will be playing it on something like the xbox, right?

    Now, if I'm correct - We're going to have to pay for the base game, and maybe pay for the expansions (if the game is going to be successful), after that we'll have to pay a montly subscription? I could deal with that, I've dealt with the same shit on world of warcraft. But - the xbox players will also have to pay up for the xbox live? That's just too much, and all of it is montly. Let's not forget that we have to pay up for our internets as well...

    What the heck are they trying to do? Milk the crap out of its fanbase or something? And what if the game isn't even worth its starting price?

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. rivengamer

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    Hmm, now this is something I haven't considered. Since I'm exclusively a PC gamer, I'm only assuming that my total cost would only be the price of the base game + $15 a month (+ monthly internet). I didn't realize that console gamers would have to pay Xbox Live on top of that.

    It seems too much then for the majority of the gaming community given that there are other games out there that might be worth their time and money. However, I'm still hoping that this might change *after* the beta. Maybe people would find it more worth it after that.
     
  3. Fighter X

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    I don't think DLC is going to be paid-for, it hopefully will be free. I see it going down like this. The game will be $60, and they already said you get the first month for free, after that it'll be $15 a month. The $15 will cover the maintenance of the game, and DLC. They are also including micro transactions, so you can get that as well. As for XBL and fees, you do know that Playstation will be setting up a yearly fee now too. I can't remember the price for that, but I'm pretty sure it's happening. PSN isn't going to be free anymore.

    The XBL and PSN fee isn't a big deal imo. $60 for XBL, not sure what PSN will be. Those aren't a big deal, it's like buying a brand new game once a year, we can totally handle that.

    I think they'll give us free DLC because of the monthly fee.
     
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    I think you've just convinced a number of people that PC gaming is here to stay. With XBLand PSN charging you to access an item that requires another charge, you might as well stick to your PC.
     
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    I don't see it as a real big problem. Yes you'll have to pay a yearly fee for XBL or PS+, monthly fee for your ISP, and $15 a month for the game. I don't view the whole yearly fee as a problem either. Now I do hope that DLC will be free, if not I will be a bit annoyed about that, probably wouldn't even bother buying any DLC if that was the case.
     
  6. crimsonghost747

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    The fact that you choose to pay XBL or PSN is your own fault, nothing to do with the game publisher.

    However with $60 + $15 a month + microtransactions, yes it would appear that you are correct on them milking their fanbase for as much money as possible.
     
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    I never really thought about it since I am a PC gamer if I w console gamer I would not even bother with the game because that is throwing down quite a bit of money to play one game after awhile that money adds up quickly.
     
  8. Andrew Busby

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    I'm a PC gamer, so this doesn't really effect me - but unfortunately this is the price you pay for being part of a closed ecosystem like the Xbox/playstation ecosystems.

    Hopefully the game should run on a wide variety of platforms so you should be able to run it on pretty much any semi modern PC. Maybe that will be your best bet?
     
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    You make a good point. However if you already have console... you probably already pay for xbox live / PNS since if I've understood correctly you need that for all multiplayer games?
     
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    I shut down my Xbox Live account a few years ago and never looked back for specifically this reason. On top of having to pay that massive fee, I can't play with a large amount of my friends because they'd end up on different servers. Such BS. PC for life, brothers! :rolleyes:
     
  11. John Edison

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    I don't think that they are "milking it". These things cost money. The cost of the game is for the entire development. The subscription fees is for maintenance, future updates and content. And X-box live covers the ability to play online. Unless the Bethesda finds a way to cut the cost of updates and content, I don't really think they can do much about this. Honestly, we don't know how this is all going to turn out. MMORPGs like Star Wars: The Old Republic, originally were pay-to-play only. Since then, it has become free-to-play. We are just going to have to sit this one out, and see what happens. Rules are rules :(

    As a note, I just want to say that I have converted to PC. I spent 5 years paying for X-box live, and I thought it was genuinely worth it. While it might be a pain, Microsoft still offers a service to all the gamers that pay. I'm betting that Elder Scrolls Online is going to be worth every dollar as well. Games in general are an expensive hobby, but Elder Scrolls looks awesome! I'm super excited!
     
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    I think it's reasonable, since the game probably costed TONS of money to develop and its been in development since 2007. Also, I heard that they are going to "Transition To Free" when things settle, since most games that started out as FTP are struggling to stay alive.
     
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    I played Skyrim and Oblivion for about a whole year each and I suspect I'd do the same for TESO. Now the internet in my building is free but it's only about 1mb/s, which is not enough for online games, and my only option in this area is $60 a month for Brighthouse's all singing all dancing internet. Many people like myself will only buy a console for a certain game and TESO is this game. so let's calculate the total cost for a person such as myself for this one video game. $200 for the game and 12 months subscription plus $720 for the years internet supply $400 for the PS4 and lets say $60 for PSN. All in all that's $1320.00 for a video game. Granted you can use the internet and PS4 for other things, playing TESO would be the primary reason for buying it. It's a ridiculous amount of money. I need to eat food... to survive... this game is going to be a flop on console until it goes free to play.
     
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    Rumor has it that Bethesda is already planning on a model to move ESO to F2P just because of the lack of interest. I honestly wouldnt be surprised, these days very few games survive on a pay model.
     
  15. crimsonghost747

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    But that's just a ridiculous way of counting it. Might as well add the TV and the house you are living in while playing. And the car which you will use to drive and buy the game.
     
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    True. But I already have the car and the house to live as they are not things that I would buy just to play the game. If I wanted to get the game I would have to upgrade my internet and buy the console (which I wouldn't buy it, were it not for teso) and I would have to buy all the other things, and my only reason for getting any of them would be for getting TESO. Not everyone has perfect internet., and a lot of people aren't planning on buying a console , but in order to get one game, would sway them into buying it. If this can be the case with me, then it can be the case with many other people too.
     
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    That's exactly what I was thinking too. Throw in the electricity bill, and the cost of the food that you eat yearly (you need energy, right?)!

    You really cannot blame ESO for the internet fee, the console cost, or the membership fee (PSN or XBL). Those things are not exclusive to the game, and so it is really ridiculous to add it up like this! Agree with you 100%!
     
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    I don't think that you can really say that there is already a lack-of-interest. The game hasn't been released yet (besides the Beta), so I don't think the "lack of interest" is reliable information just yet. I've heard something a little different actually.

    Apparently, the developers were trying to get Microsoft to get rid of the Xbox live God requirement. This was months ago however, and it's doubtful that it would actually happen. Where are you hearing this, if you don't mind me asking? Has there been any statements made by the developers that talks about this?
     
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    I am pretty sure the PC version will be released before the xbox version as well. If you don't like the payment plan, then don't play.
     
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    The payment plan is kind of out dated. I feel the games that do it best have the ability to earn your game time through means of playing for people who have the time to do so, or simply pay a monthly sub for those who don't have the time.