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Metro 2033 Non-canonical ending vs Last Light???

Discussion in 'Metro: Last Light General Discussion' started by JorisCeoen, May 22, 2013.

  1. JorisCeoen

    JorisCeoen New Member

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    Wow I'm so dissapointed. I have spent so much time going for the enlightened achievement... just to discover that it has become totally non-canonical, waking up in LL and then everyone throwing at me that I nuked the fucking Dark Ones...

    Why, in the whole world, do developers implement something in a game that looks totally as something that gives a major implication in a sequel, and then completely waste all of the effort of the player for something that gives you neither a reward nor a point to do it.

    Personally, going for the second ending in Metro 2033 is not only a waste of time this way but it's also totally uncomforting especially when starting Metro: Last Light.

    Don't get me wrong, the games are awsome, but this discovery somewhat broke my evening and a bit of my encouragement to play LL... I really don't know why this didn't have even a little bit of impact on LL playthrought, that would have made the game tons better and of higher quality just for that alone :rant:
     
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    yeah yeah, whine whine.the canon ending is the same as the one in the book, aka bombs away!this was known way before the game actually came out.
     
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    Because the "Bad Ending" creates tragedy, which equals good storytelling that Last Light delivers on.
     
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    Knowing Glukhovsky, and having read the novel... Something in my guts tells me, the bad ending will be the canon. We will find out in Metro 2035, the next novel.
    I view Metro 2033's good ending as "What if the opposite happen?"
     
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    2035 IS last light in book form.
     
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    Not exactly. The book will go into much more detail. I wish for more Pavel :sad:
     
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    True.
    However, we will see THE true story told as Glukhovsky see it.
    Many people think Metro 2033's game canon is 1:1 with the novel. To certain point it is, but not 100%.
    The book however is even more dark and bitter.
     
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    Hey people, I'm back to this thread here to say that I take my words partially back. I finished the game and I got Redemption from the first try :)

    When I look back at the game now, I must say I have seen some incredibly beautiful things. I'm also a modeler, texturer and level designer and I'm really jealous of the work that has been put in Metro: Last Light.

    Furthermore, as I said I partially take back my words because now I understand why the bad ending is canonical in Metro 2033. I'm satisfied with the alternative ending of LL and I hope to see more in the DLC.

    One thing I didn't really like is how the bad ending (I had to watch it on YT) reveals that Anna receives a child from Artyom and we get that nice little vid where she explains he's the bravest of them all. However, on the good ending Artyom survives but afterwards nothing between the 2 is revealed as if it looks like that's totally unimportant :twitch:? Anyways, that's just uber-minor and a personal 'complaint'. I just wish to know more about those 2, maybe in DLC that would be totally awsome, I would buy it a second!

    But, to say the least, the enlightened ending was not a waste of time after all, I'm just happy I did it, and the redemption ending is really satisfying as well ;)

    I hope to see more of Metro in the future! Big thanks to 4A Games, THQ and Deep Silver!
     
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    I just got the enlightened ending for the achievement. . .
     
  11. Gyrate

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    Bang on target.

    Also, the "bad" ending in 2033 is much more easier to continue.
    SPOLIER AHEAD! (If anyone there didn't read the novel or played the game which is highly unlikely but, safety is the first.)
    Artyom's journey needed to be explained more. He can understand the Dark Ones but he's only speculating on what they were wanted to say for him. In his life the others always told him to fear about the Dark Ones, they're hostile and merciless. He's probably got blinded. Artyom is a naive person and he hesitated to do anything. He sacrificed too much to step back from the plan and his friends are have fate in him.

    In the end of the book, Artyom doesn't think of the mission as a success, he thoughts what they made is terrible and it's the human side of the things. We often think wrong and we're easily can be manipulated like Artyom with all the bad stuff he heard about the Dark Ones.
    Making some trouble with/around the Little One is also gave us more entertaining and better story than just focusing on the Red Line versus Order conflict.
    Personally I hope the next sequel will builds up on the good ending of Last Light. It's really time for giving some good for Artyom.
     
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    I think there will be a 3rd Metro, Metro 2035. So if they want to continue with Artyom's story, the "good" ending for Last Light is the one they'll have to go with. Otherwise, maybe one of the charactors in the DLCs could be the lead in the next game. Then we'll hear people talk about this hero, Artyom, while drinking in bars.
     
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    I don't believe they left out the information about Anna and Artyom's child for any story telling or lore purposes. A) Anna wasn't important, really she wasn't. B) It was simply not necessary and possibly even over looked - maybe they made the 'bad' ending first and didn't want to go back and make new scenes with Anna, Artyom and the child.


    I preferred getting the 'bad ending,' because much like the 'bombs away' finish of Metro 2033, the death of Artyom and the others was more closure and felt as a more appropriate and definitive end to the Metro story.
    I also felt that I was inherently good, giving many of the humans a second chance, and only attacking monsters/creatures when I felt threatened - even then, I still got the 'bad ending,' which felt more realistic.

    What I absolutely disliked, was :

    A) The mystic, Khan and the bit about 'the River' and some of the other borderline supernatural wishy washy stuff that made the story start to look really weak and silly.

    B) That the Dark Ones are keepers of morality, in that an entire game's ending is based off whether you were 'good' during the course of it. Well who defines "good?" In this case, it seems the Dark Ones did, and if you met their approval you were rewarded with keeping your life - a.k.a. the good ending. Why are they the judge and jury? Did they not commit their own negative actions? Why are they concerned with the well being of other humans or creatures? These are questions that even players of Metro 2033 could not answer and it leaves a difficulty in understanding why the Dark Ones are so important.

    The only thing you can be sure of is that they are powerful - so much so that they can warp reality and vanish. Which always made me wonder, why couldn't they escape the bombs?

    I often wonder whether the fault of gaps in the continuity of the story, lies with 2033 or with Last Light.

    Yes, but what else is there to talk about? Even in the good ending, the 'threat' to the Metro is over. As players we now know the 'threat' wasn't really the Dark Ones and that the evil humans(by and large) are gone.
    Sure they could make up another threat, but then they'd just be trying to out do themselves with something bigger and badder - games like that go down the toilet fast.

    As far as I'm concerned, the Metro game lore as we know it, is complete.

    I'd rather 4A games acquire licensing for STALKER and put their efforts into that. There's a lot more flexibility in lore/story, and imagine Metro LL as a sandbox? Awesome...!
     
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