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Mystery Ammo

Discussion in 'Metro: Last Light General Discussion' started by Apathy4Marmite, May 20, 2013.

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  1. Apathy4Marmite

    Apathy4Marmite Member

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    Towards the start of the game, I noticed that a lot of the Reich soldiers appear to be carrying a type of ammo that I have not encountered anywhere else in the game and after looting a certain amount of it, Artyom no longer removes it from enemy corpses due to reaching the maximum capacity.

    Originally I thought it might have been a secondary ammo type for the Ashot or possibly other shotguns but it can't be loaded, nor do any of the exchanges seem to buy or sell it and it doesn't seem to be for any of the weapons Artyom can use.

    I can't use URLs yet so I can't show a screenshot of them, but they kinda look like smaller versions of 40mm grenades, I've heard about an underbarrel grenade launcher that didn't make the final release, but I've read that it was meant to fire pipe-bombs.

    So what's the deal with these things? Are they actually usable in-game but I'm just too stupid to figure out what with, or are they what remains of a weapon that was cut from the final version?


    EDIT: I can now include URLs in my posts, so here's a screenshot:

    [​IMG]
     
    #1 Apathy4Marmite, May 20, 2013
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  2. Hazard

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    Are you sure you're not talking about the 7.62x54mmR cartridges? I don't recall seeing any unusable ammunition in the game... And I did kill and search most of the fascist soldiers.
     
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  3. Apathy4Marmite

    Apathy4Marmite Member

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    I don't think they're 7.62x54mmR cartridges, the ones I'm talking about seem to have the general shape of .44 ammunition but much, much larger.

    If you kill the two Nazis at the start of the chapter Separation that come out to check the tunnel after Pavel gets captured, one should have some strapped to his shoulder, and the other will have loads of them strapped to his boot.
     
    #3 Apathy4Marmite, May 20, 2013
  4. Hazard

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    Had a look at them, and I'd say they're most likely some kind of 30mm grenades. So your guess is probably pretty close to the truth.

    I didn't notice them at all before, due to the simplification 4A did to scavenging. Good catch.
     
    #4 Hazard, May 20, 2013
  5. Cheaptricks

    Cheaptricks Well-Known Member

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    hmmmm I will keep my eyes open. I'm not sure I've seen this.
     
    #5 Cheaptricks, May 20, 2013
  6. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Sorry, this is probably wrong, but are you talking about the ammunition for the one-barreled shotgun, which isn't in Metro2033?
     
    #6 Skaara Dreadlocks, May 20, 2013
  7. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    yeah dosent that take rounds the size of a flare?
     
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  8. Cheaptricks

    Cheaptricks Well-Known Member

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    Nope thats just shotgun shells.
     
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  9. Apathy4Marmite

    Apathy4Marmite Member

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    I thought these might have been for the one-barreled shotgun, but as far as I know that weapon only takes standard shotgun shells. Whatever these are, they're roughly the same size as a shotgun shell which is what made me think it might be a specialist type of shotgun ammo like a frag round or something, but apparently not.
     
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  10. Lagtagbag

    Lagtagbag Well-Known Member

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    they could be the ammo for the Preved, aka anti-material rifle, 12.7mm rounds?
     
    #10 Lagtagbag, May 20, 2013
  11. Hazard

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    No, when picked up they disappear from the body, but they don't appear in your inventory at all or have any pick-up icon. They look a lot like VOG-17 30mm grenades used in the AGS-17.
     
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  12. Lagtagbag

    Lagtagbag Well-Known Member

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    well post a screenshot when you can so we can get to the bottom with this, cause I have never seen any 30mm grenade-looking ammo.
     
    #12 Lagtagbag, May 20, 2013
  13. Apathy4Marmite

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    Added screenshot to original post.
     
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  14. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    You know, I was rather wondering this myself. I can't imagine they're 12.7x108 rounds, either, as they look nothing like the world models (you can see them in DShks) and are too short and bulky in any event.

    No, they very much appear to be some kind of grenade in the 20-40mm range, as used with an under-barrel launcher, e.g.
     
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  15. Extreme Scotsman

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    The Ammo could of been for the Home-Made Grenade launcher that was cut out, but I think that weapon was only going to use pipe-bombs.
     
    #15 Extreme Scotsman, May 21, 2013
  16. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    In the E3 alpha gameplay demo, the under-barrel launcher was indeed using pipebombs.
     
    #16 lebbers, May 21, 2013
  17. Apathy4Marmite

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    Okay, so I noticed that other than on the fascists in Separation, these appear in only one other place in the game that I know of, which is on the Reds that are escorting the Dark One on the train.

    Seeing as both of those locations were what were featured in the 13 minute gameplay demo footage, it seems that there's a high probability that they were intended for a weapon that was cut from the game early on. However due to the abundance in which they appear on the enemies that carry them, I doubt that they were for the underbarrel grenade launcher... You'd literally never run out of ammo for it if they were.
     
    #17 Apathy4Marmite, May 21, 2013
  18. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    Well, you're not wrong, but it looks very much like a belt of 20/30mm grenades.

    Also, as you're no doubt aware, the number of rounds recovered from a magazine/clip varies depending on difficulty and has no particular relation with the world model.
     
    #18 lebbers, May 21, 2013
  19. Komodo Saurian

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    These are .44, confirmed by emptying .44 weapon ammo and picking them up.

    [​IMG]

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    #19 Komodo Saurian, May 21, 2013
  20. Apathy4Marmite

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    Yeah but even on Ranger Hardcore, you'd get one per world model scavenged, meaning you'd be picking up like three grenades off of every Nazi because they're loaded with them.

    Yup, just tried it and you're right. Dropped my revolver pretty early on and never had any use for .44 ammo after that so never thought to test it.

    Pretty strange that they're massive compared to the regular world model for .44 rounds, are a different colour and also seem to come in strips of three.

    Would be nice to know if they were originally intended to be ammo for something else or were just made like that to make the Nazis look cool.
     
    #20 Apathy4Marmite, May 21, 2013
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