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Should Riven be nerfed?

Discussion in 'League of Legends (MOBA)' started by Potausen, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Potausen

    Potausen Active Member
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    I find it ridiculous that Riot can give a champion so much abilities that can be used both in defense and offense. Not only that, but they also decided that those abilities should give tons of mobility as well. And how about a dash that gives you a shield that scales with your main offensive attribute? You got that! Let's also give her 3 dashes in a single ability and a ranged ult that buffs AD. Perfect! Does anyone honestly thinks that this champion isn't overpowered? It's easy to learn and even easier to master.
     
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    I don't know what you're talking about, Riven is one of the hardest champions to master and it's definitely not easy to learn. You need to know how to use your abilities properly and how to make the most out of your passive, on top of adapting to critical situations since Riven suffers from mobility issues early on.
     
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    With great powers, there come great responsibility. So far I haven't met a player who have been fully able to master Riven, maybe it is an over powered champion, but only if the player knows how to play it (that can be said about almost every champion out there), maybe Riven is a pain to play against at the pro levels, but at the levels where we're currently at I don't think there's a skilled enough player to utilize it to its maximum potential. So no, Riven shouldn't be nerfed.
     
  4. DeeDee

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    I don't think so and I think the high learning curve and skill necessary to pull off proper use is enough to make this champion balanced in my opinion. I admit whenever I come across people who know how to use it well it makes me feel like the champion is OP but when I try it myself and can't mow down enemies like I have seen it being done it makes me realize and appreciate how well it was getting played.
     
  5. StillWinning

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    I think this type of mentality stems from the idea that it is wrong to have functional approaches to the game. Whenever you see someone requesting a nerf, the fact that they didn't ask for other things to be improved to be in line with that level of power is indicative that they just want to take something away from someone else.
     
  6. Belovedad

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    I don't see why. She's not the easiest champ to play and I don't see why you'd want to rob anyone who spent a long time to master her (like zed). She'll only be nerfed if its appropriate. Don't see it necessary right now
     
  7. Potausen

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    It's not about just taking away. How about increasing the cooldowns a bit, so when you chase her she doesn't just spam the same dashes she engaged you with to get away? Or maybe give her some resource, like mana or energy, so her skills can't be spammed without any consequences. Her only weakness is cc. But almost every other champion in the game has at least two or three weaknesses, cc being one of them.
     
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    I think she's a little too slippery at the moment, a nerf to her dash would be pretty good. Other than that I think she's rather balanced.
     
  9. erook7878

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    Yeah, it's pretty tough to master Riven. You need to be an experience player and know his strengths to really play well with Riven. You could say that about most champions, but Riven in particular because of his strengths.
     
  10. GenevB

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    Exactly, the more powerful and complex a champion is, the more skills it takes for you to master it, and there are some players who can only master easy champions, as they are not players who can play every position and therefore cannot play a champion to its maximum capacity.
     
  11. Potausen

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    She isn't that hard to learn and utilize and the only hard game I had was the first one. Once I got used to the skills, I could destroy anyone on lane just by proper timing. Timing is like all other melee champions in the game, except she has a bit more range and a shield to cover her from the initial burst. The early game is the hardest part of the game for me, often relying on my jungler for help. Other than that, the rest of the game is easy once I get a lot of AD, a bit of CDR and some def. This champion is all about timing your skills correctly, and if you've played the game for a while, this is kind of easy. I also stopped playing with her after a few games, because it got really boring. I don't know why people make such a big deal out of how hard she is to master, when in reality, if you know how to play AD melee, all it takes are one or two games and you know how to utilize her effectively.
     
  12. erook7878

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    yeah I agree it's not necessary at the moment. She isn't exactly an easy character to play with and you do need to learn how to play with her to be effective. I think they'll make the right decision with her.
     
  13. GenevB

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    Then I guess you must be a pro in the big leagues or something like that, given that you know how to play "such an over powered" champion.
     
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    Well there is that reason why Riven players have the highest afk rate. Most think they are a god then give first blood and tilt.
     
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    thе rivеn nеrf sееmеd rеаlly pаinful оn pаpеr but i hаvеnt nоtiсеd tоо muсh thе ulti сооldоwn isnt tоо bаd аnd thе nеrf is undеrstаndаblе ....but thе hеаlth rеgеn...i dunnо i fееl likе thе dmg stiсks аbit tо hаrd...rivеn is rеаlly squishy еаrly соmаpаrеd tо оthеr bruisеrs...i think it wаs bit tоо hаrsh ...this is my оpinоn sоmе might sаy yоu hаvе tо utlisе thе shеild mоrе...but lеvеling thе shеild rеmоvеs yоur dmg pоtеinаl еаrly оn аnd fоr rivеn thаt is hеr strеаgth еаrly оn bеing аblе tо trаdе еffiсtivly nоw shе саn bеаrly trаdе аs shе gеts nukеd fоr hаlf hеr hp аnd саn bеаrly rеgеn it bасk
     
  16. JusApee

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    They shouldn't nerf her regen or ult cooldown, but her overall cooldowns and damage. Her DPS is huge compared to other melee fighters and her kit ensures that she can get in and out with least effort. I despise playing against a Riven, simply because I find her shield really overpowered. Seriously, an AD scaling shield, that also has a 200 basic value. That's a lot! She should be nerfed more considerably, not just removing 5 damage from her Q.
     
  17. Spectre456

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    No, she shouldn't be nerfed. I like characters like her that are hard to master but are complete beasts once you actually do. That usually comes with hate from other players, but more power to the people who take the time to learn to use her properly.
     
  18. FenWoFon

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    I have played Riven like a hundred times and I personally think that no, she should not get nerfed because she already is a champion which you gotta get used to and need a considerable skill level to play her properly, that is my opinion though.
     
  19. erook7878

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    That is the main reason she shouldn't get nerfed. She may be a powerful character, but it takes a while to master her skill set. It's not like you can just jump in with her and dominate.
     
  20. DeeDee

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    I agree. Whenever I hear suggestions like this I attribute it mostly to skilled players making the gameplay seem so easy that it looks like the champion is too good. Sometimes I feel like this too I admit so I try to watch more gameplay and see how it looks like when they lose, so I can make a more balanced opinion.