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The end of minecraft multiplayer as we know it?

Discussion in 'Minecraft' started by Robbinho14, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Robbinho14

    Robbinho14 Well-Known Member

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    Most of you probably know this already. But mojang recently tweeted about some changes in their EULA. It says you cant make money of of anything mojang made. aimed at bigger servers as Hypixel, Shotbow, mineplex etc. Wich make a lot of money each month and has paid staff. You can say they are runned like a company.

    The only problem is that these servers have high running costs. Some with over 1000 USD a month. So what keeps these servers alive? Exactly donations, Small or big amounts of money in exchange for benefits in the minigames, item kits. Or anything that benefits you.

    So what does that mean? it means that major servers cant keep up with the high costs if players cant donate for items. And i think more than 50% of the community is playing on these servers.

    What do you think? comment down below!
     
  2. JayLee

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    I was going to post about this if nobody else did, because of how likely it is that it'll mean the end of many servers.

    I don't think all hope is lost because they haven't banned donating as a whole - only rewarding people for donations, as it technically counts as a "purchase". People can still donate as long as they don't get anything in return, and I'm sure there are many people who are okay with that. But the numbers will go down.

    It's unfair because clearly it's about Mojang wanting the money instead. The people who put the work into the servers deserve the money. I didn't purchase Minecraft because of Mojang, I purchased it because I was intrigued by the amount of multiplayer servers I could play on... maybe if Mojang would have put in effort to run their own (good) servers earlier they wouldn't feel so threatened to the point of having to do this.
     
  3. Reeyuru

    Reeyuru Well-Known Member

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    This is a pretty big change.

    This will definitely hurt a lot of servers but I never liked the idea of you getting ahead of other players or getting special treatment just because you have more money. It seems like the only high quality servers out there are the ones that ask for donations but give nothing in return. They truly allow everyone to play at an equal level.

    Better servers will pop up, but many good servers will die. I mean, you have to do what you have to do. Just because you give people rewards doesn't necessarily mean you are a bad server, it's just that it isn't as good as the best servers that don't do that.

    But I don't see how this will give Mojang more money. I don't think of it as them being selfish.
     
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    I think this is pretty ridiculous. I go on Shotbow all the time to play MineZ. Why did Mojang change this? I think they were afraid that the servers themselves are making more money than themselves. Geez. This really sucks and perhaps it may ruin my Minecraft gaming experience. I feel as if Mojang is becoming a money hungry company.
     
  5. Jim Flowers

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    Whoa this is kind of huge. I feel a little bad for those servers and the people they employ. Is this just an underhanded way for Minecraft to promote their own server hosting?
     
  6. Robbinho14

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    Yeah i believe it is. Wich is pretty sad. I just hope they wont take another step to completely forbid non-realm servers. Mojang has chosen the ea path...
     
  7. Robbinho14

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    All true. Mojang does have all the rights to do this but still it is not fair. People spend a lot of time coding and managing servers that its just unfair they have to go.
     
  8. Lolman112

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    How is that unfair? Have you seen all the skyrim content? Nobody of the modders there want any money (well maybe they want, but they don't ask). Coding and managing is supposed to be voluntary since it wasn't the primary goal of the game, according to Mojang. Otherwise they would've probably made some servers on their own.
     
  9. Robbinho14

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    Well maybe no paid coders. but what do you think the running costs are for 1000 slots or more? its a few 1000 dollars a month. you wont get 2000 $ just with normal donators that wont get anything in return
     
  10. tinybutnotfangless

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    I've read a similar argument on some other Minecraft related forums. However, this is incorrect.

    Name me one commercialized game that does state in their EULA that players CAN monetize on the games they play? I am certain that every single commercialized game on the planet says that players CANNOT do this in their policies.

    You may not have purchased the game because of Mojang, but without Mojang, there is no Minecraft. No Minecraft, no servers. Most people on the planet don't buy games because of the game developers. They buy games because of the game itself and possibly the multiplayer features they have. So your argument here is moot.

    Mojang is not threatened by servers running and making money. This has never been the point. It has never been a point in all game development companies. The issue is that people are NOT allowed to monetize on the games they play, period.

    Let's put it this way...

    Imagine you created a movie and you sold a DVD to me as a customer for $1. Then I put up posters all over town and tell people they can come watch that movie if they pay me $5 per person. On top of that, I create t-shirts based on that movie and sell them off and make a good profit. Not only that, I create events based on that movie you created, marketing my own brand and making a good living off of it. It gets so far that I create an entirely new company to monetize on the movie you created, without ever giving you another penny.

    In the world of running a business that makes money, there is something called licensing. That is how movie theatres are able to charge customers money to watch the movies they get from the studios.

    In Minecraft, the mechanics are somewhat different, but the idea is the same. Simply put: you are not allowed to use Minecraft to generate money. You can however use your server to generate donations. Any time you use assets of Minecraft (perks that give players things contains in Minecraft) as a trade to give players who pay money some perks, that is then considered a business transaction.

    What many server administrators are doing is considered illegal based on the EULA.

    HOWEVER, here is the catch and the part I disagree with Mojang: Mojang want to punish all server administrators even if those server administrators are running plugins that give additional features to Minecraft which are NOT a part of the core Minecraft build.

    Solution?

    1) I accept a licensing agreement between server administrators and Mojang for allowing monetization of their game on servers.

    =AND/OR=

    2) Server admin cannot give perks based on core Minecraft assets and charge players on them. However, server admin can charge members based on plugins that give additional features.
     
  11. Rgrimes

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    Sometimes the high populated servers websites have advertisements on them, a well known company (such as google) pays the server hosts to advertise on their website, the server hosts recieve a small amount of money every time the advertisement is clicked by another user, and this money can be used to help fund server hosting and website fees.

    Honestly, I don't think it's the end but servers may ask for more donations now.
     
  12. ACN

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    Servers may cost around $1000 to keep open and running but I've seen servers that ask for over $20 just for 1 diamond. That's just ridiculous and I can see why Mojang don't like it.

    If you do the math, you'll find out that only 50 diamonds (costing $20 each) need to be purchased to generate $1000 which keeps the server running. An average server has around 1000 people so server creators can make diamonds or whatever $2 each or even less and as long as 500 people (about half of the players) pay for something then the server would be fine.

    So basically, servers are asking for VERY high amounts of money just for parts of the game which is highly unreasonable in my opinion and I’m glad Mojang removed it as it's just daylight robbery
     
  13. Malhar Patel

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    This is the first I'm hearing of this. I wonder why they would do such a thing, I mean all these servers seem to barely be staying alive on their own. Is this their way of just weeding out all those other servers? That's just nonsense. If they do go through with it, you can expect a lot of servers to die out.