Too All Fans.........LL is going to be HORRIBLE

I think you are saying something important here. We won't just bow down and love whatever shitty game they call "Metro". However, the skies aren't that dark to me, even though I see most of your points. I also read somewhere that they would make the singleplayer experience longer in LL. Multiplayer for Metro will be incredibly hard to make, but I know 4A will do their best.

 

Darkbringer nailed my sentiment towards the OP.

If it's one thing I have, it's faith. 4A Games is a damn good studio, and even with their only game being Metro 2033, I have faith that this game will meet my expectations. Which are damn high, mind you.

 

See Inline op2:

 

^^^^ Dis i LIKE!

 

"Dont dumb things down, 2033 was easy enough if you payed attention"

The main point I care about. I want LL to be hard.

Metro 2033 wasn't that short really, it's designed so that you take your time and shit not rush through it.

Khans voice is nothing like a kids, if anything he sounds older. His new voice is more how I imagined it from the book, since he's portrayed as a very powerful man and so it only fits that he'd have a powerful voice, yet it's not over the top like CoD characters voices are, it's just right. I'll decide whether or not I like it when the game's out.

Saying that the campaign is going to be bad because of the multiplayer is stupid, have you seen how nice the gameplay videos are? Although I do not like the idea of a minigun in game, unless it's mounted. The only thing outlandish i can think about a minigun in game is the fact he can carry it and it's sort of over the top.

I think Majnu nailed most of the points on the head perfectly.
Although I personally am not bothered about the over chatting companions since it was deliberate and makes it more realistic since people try and talk over each other all the time.
If you listened you could understand what everyone was saying. Dunno what Majnu meant by voice overs which aren't complete? If you meant they talk and cut out the last bit of their sentence, I have not seen or rather heard any evidence of that when I've played through.

 

Paragraphs please, my eyes hurt. :shocked:

 

Honestly, I don't think they'll compromise the story to make way for Multiplayer. Hell, Dmitri Glukovksy was the guy who wrote the story on this thing. The friggin man who built this whole thing up from the start to bottom won't just bring it down on its knees just to cater to the needs of the CoD boys.

I think you forget, you're a ranger now. And since you're part of one of the most strongest and well-equipped Military Factions in the whole metro, don't you think you'd actually be using actual tactical and strategic ideas instead of just going John Wayne on your enemies? Don't you think they'll give you a few bros to back you up and help you out on your jobs instead of just acting like Big Damn Heroes all the time? Metro might by a post-apocalyptic universe, but did you really think the degeneration of technology meant the degeneration of human creativity?

Remember: You are the hero of the Metro. You are the weapon of the rangers, and don't you think they'll be giving you the best of their gear to make sure to keep you alive? Don't you think Artyom will go to extreme measures to make sure he's fit and ready, and well-equipped to face to challenges the Nazis will be throwing at him? I'd like to think that Artyom wears a suit that's a hybrid of both Heavy and Stealth armor from M2033, allowing him to survive most of the attacks he receives from his foes. And I also like to think that most of the Nazis have learnt that shooting at the head doesn't automatically mean a hit, and aim for the central body mass... The place were a lot of shit are strapped to, lowering the impact of the bullet to the players body. Yeah sure, it doesn't kill as fast, but atleast it hits more.

Well, it's a mutant for shizz's sake. What do you expect? I shot a Librarian several times in the head, and all it did was make angry. And, I mean, we're using surplus ammo. You don't expect that to bring down a goliath!

I do think there will be a difficulty setting for the actual game. It's very likely that teasers showed the 'easier' difficulties. Also, in an in-universe account, easier watch/gasmask mechanic might just mean that Artyom's gotten used to being in the surface and that removing and replacing his mask and filter is as easy as breathing nowadays and the companions are your fellow Metro Citizens wanting to fight and stop the Nazis from extinguishing the brightest candle the Metro has left and your brother Rangers who's got your back til the bitter end (Remember Pavel. Remember him. He was my best friend.)

Like I said with the Mechanics of the Gasmask/Watch, its very possible it's to symbolize Artyom's change from Metro Dweller, to Metro Super Hero. He's a Stalker now. A knight in shining armor, for those who's read the books! By now, with all the crap that's been thrown at him, he's now a friggin PRO!

If you were in their place, and saw that Metro only had a cult following bringing them in, wouldn't you think, that to get all the goods of the upcoming metro, they'd have to compromise some parts of the game to appeal to the public? How would it feel, putting so much work on this thing, just to see it fail? In all honesty, it's stupid to say that they would ruin metro by trying to get more exposure. If small CoD elements were inputted in the Metro, would that be bad? Would any game influenced by CoD instantly be bad? Would you have rather they had made no LL at all, if that's the case? I guess what I'm saying is, you have to wait it to see it. Just like what they said before me "NOTHING IS SET IN STONE."

I'd just like to say, some games aren't even like that. Halo wasn't like that. Killzone wasn't like that. But guess what? A lot of people loved them. BECAUSE IT WAS A CHANGE OF PACE. Sometimes a change of pace is good. It's really good.

 

Made a little more understandable.

 

honestly buddy, you are getting way over-anxious....there is now way to judge how a gamme will do or be when it has not yet been released.

I'd like to remind you of World of Warcraft:

The Developers wanted to make it a free-to-play MMORPG,and they had declared that hitting 1 million players would have been a huge success....
As of today,WoW has over 11 million players and a community that keeps growing.

So,you can't really say what will work and what will not....you never know!
The only thing that we can do, is trust the Devs and their knowledge of the community that is going to judge the game, hoping that they will follow our tips and satisfy our needs as Metro 2033 players.

 

Joe has confirmed to me that they're putting in different difficulty settings and that the harder difficulties will be harder than in Metro: Last Light.

That Artyom's a pro bit has nothing to do with the new filter mechanics, no matter how good you are you're not going to get a new watch if the old one is still awesome and you're still going to have to change filters. A game mechanic they're possibly not putting back in to mine and many others disappointment.

The developers have said that they don't want the game to be like CoD and have said themselves that they were pleased at how well Metro: 2033 did without any real advertising. They're not going to cater the game for CoD players they're just trying make it more user friendly. They haven't forgot about the original followers and are trying to keep to the true Metro spirit.

Of course I'm still worried about how it will turn out but I will be buying the game regardless. I have faith!

This post was a reply to the OP and Majnu. Sorry I couldn't get in the OPs quotes aswell I dunno how to do it easily and I cba to go back and forth to get the points I need.

 

What I mean is the videos shown so far are work in progress. The game is in pre-alpha and I would like them to get out of that stage so when we see the next video it will be a teaser to actual in-game footage. Voice acting, sound cues etc will all be ironed out.

The videos so far are for noobs to become familiar with Metro LL. We have to remember Metro wasn't released on the PS3 and not everyone understood the game the first time.

 

OP, like it or not, the game needs to make a profit, if it's felt adding multi makes that more likely so be it. I also think it's better to wait and see what the devs actually have planned for the multi part of the game before having a rant. If it turns out to be a twitch shooter then I doubt you will be the only one complaining, but like I said best to wait and see what's planned first.

 

Actually the game hasn't been that expensive to make, one of the perks of being developed in the Ukraine. So they don't need so many people to buy it. Metro 2033 was considered a resounding success to the developers despite it's small following and lack of advertisement.

 

Gatling good:

 

Agreed. Saying that it is a failure before it's even been released isn't the way to go. You can't show the story and immersion in a 12 minute video, and to be honest, I don't want them to show the story! The more we experience this for ourselves when it's released, the happier I'll be.

 

Now THATS a Russian gun!

 

I don't always have the time to post here, and I wish I could get involved with these conversations more, but to the OP, and anyone else who is worried:

We are making the best METRO game we can. We know what you loved about the original. It is all still there, and more besides. I'm not commenting on all the specifics, but most of these concerns are assumptions based on the tiny bit of game we've shown, or misinformation. Manual filter changes? They're in the game. I actually changed a filter moments ago

We're not changing the formula in a bid to reach a bigger 'casual' audience - we're keeping the formula, improving the execution, and marketing the hell out the game this time. We think this is the right path to success for 4A, for THQ, and the fans

- Bi50N

 

As long as 4A is not trying to please everyone - like Capcom with their newest train wreck: Resident Evil 6 - I'm sure Last Light will turn out just fine.