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What is your political opinion?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DrDarcy, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. DrDarcy

    DrDarcy Well-Known Member

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    WARNING! IF SOMEONE POSTS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE OPPOSED TO DO NOT START A FLAMEWAR. THIS IS MERELY A INTERESTING CONVERSATION! IF AN ARGUMENT BREAKS OUT I WILL ASK A MOD TO CLOSE THE THREAD DOWN.

    Well, now that I've got that out of my way, I can begin. Politics played a big part in Metro, and I'm interested into how the fans of Metro align.

    For myself, I tend to place myself (very broadly) as liberal left. To be more specific anarchist socialist. I'm not a rioter, I stay inside because the sunlight hurts my eyes! If someone doesn't know what anarchist are, we are people who reject all forms of authority and believe in absolute freedom/liberty. V from V for Vendetta (the graphic novel not the film) is another anarchist. So what about you guys? Where do you align? Or do you just not care? ;)
     
  2. In general or in the Metro universe?
     
  3. DrDarcy

    DrDarcy Well-Known Member

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    General View.
    Hence the General Chat!
     
  4. Democracy seems to be the most successful so far in history (Ancient Greece, Roman republic, modern Europe and North America).

    Totalitarianism did fine as well (USSR and People's Republic of China).

    Personally I favour the Unification, but that's not going to happen ever.
     
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    TheStalker Dragon Slayer

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    A goverment that is the people.
     
  6. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    An Autocracy for me
     
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    stalker elboratee plz i dont know how to speell world
    i think is the people votes for what right and not corruptedd govt i call the real american way the real democracy not the us of bs right now. i dont trust this us of bs govt
     
  8. GoodLordApollo

    GoodLordApollo The Courier

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    I prefer a government that works and is mostly fair and not oppressive, which seems in some ways Capitilism, (Sadly) and Monarchy and Democracy.

    If the world came under a oppressive and harsh totalitarian regime and it was defeated by a unified world resistance then maybe unification would happen, though it is highly unlikely.
     
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  9. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    Kim Jung Fuckface to the rescue
     
  10. rolfwar

    rolfwar Well-Known Member
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    Well, it is hard to summarise in one word one's political ideas.
    I like to call myself a Bolshevik or a Marxist-Leninist.
    Unfortunately, these words' true meaning and they ideas they represent have been tarnished mostly by Stalin and most of the supposedly "communist" leaders in history.Also, anti-communist propaganda has played its role in this.

    But back to us! As i said, i consider myself a Bolshevik, but i guess that, after going deep into it, i could be considered an Anarcho-communist, but my ideas are not really consisten with this definition.
     
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  12. Unification = Ant colony.
     
  13. Darkbringer

    Darkbringer Huntsman

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    Democracy to me is a no-brainer. It's obvious that the people need to, to some point, choose the fate of the nation. But you can't have elections about everything all the time. Therefore, there should only be held public polls (What is the official name of this?) when over 2 3rds of the parliament are in favour. So I support the idea of a representative democracy - of course it has it's problems, but it seems the best option so far.


    On a more concrete basis, I support the idea of personal freedom. I support free speech, free religion, gay rights, legalization of weed - all that stuff. But what separates me from Liberals in America is that I also like the idea that the private sector runs the companies. And that is almost all the companies. So basically another freedom-based thing - free market. A market where survival of the fittest roams. The reason behind me thinking like this, is my own state - Denmark. Here, the government owns the train/railway industry, and it is, without exaggerating, a failure. People have to pay the equivalent of 3 usd just to spend 5 minutes on the train?
    The "Education card" intended for students costs 100 Usd for 30 days. And even with these prices, the deficit of the first quarter of 2012 was 10 million usd - before tax. After these numbers I've heard multiple times of a deficit of more than a billion danish kroner, but I can't find a source for it know :eek:hwell:

    So since the deficit is so large, in the private sector this company would succumb, and a more efficient one would take over. However, since it is state run, it just receives more tax-payer money (yes, the price before was excluding the tax you already paid to the company) and doesn't need to effectivise it's ways.

    I also believe in free health care. I don't think people dealing with a life or death situation of another human should even consider wether it's financially viable.
     
  14. Bamul

    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    I think of myself as a libertarian communist (or anarcho-communist, since they're the same thing) and I am also a male feminist. I think that social and economic class, the government, the state, borders and nations should all be abolished with the bourgeois overthrown and the world run through a truly free system of direct democracy (not the representative bullshit of countries). Males and females should be treated equally regardless of their sexual orientation (including all of LGBT). All healthcare and education should be free for everyone. I am strongly opposed to any form of authoritarianism (including fascism and Soviet communism), capitalism, right wing economics and yadadada.

    Darcy, if you're the type of anarchist I think you are then you probably know what all of this means anyway. I should probably give you a heads-up though that most members of this forum have very close-minded views on anarchism, communism, capitalism, nationalism and so on. No offence guys, but that's just how I see it.
     
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    thats kinda funny about the railroads, since here in sweden the national railway sold parts of the railway to private companys. the effect of this has been that the railway maintenance has detoriated wildly.
     
  16. GoodLordApollo

    GoodLordApollo The Courier

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    An anarchist society would never truly prosper. My reason? Well humans would never truly work together to achieve certain thing, this society would then begin to fail as large several small groups begin to form large groups and take control creating a dictatorship or democracy.
     
  17. TheStalker

    TheStalker Dragon Slayer

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    The book....
     
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    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    This is very interseting about the amount of anarchists and communists (marxists) in this forum :)
     
  19. icedragon15

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    i want stalkeriscm. i dont know what that is but it new one made by stalker hehe
     
  20. DrDarcy

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    Thanks Bamul. The problem with anarchism is that it is so misunderstood. Thanks to the punk movement, everyone associates anarchism with chaos. It's not, anarchism is anti-authority but pro-order. My favourite quote to separate anarchism from chaos, is anarchism is "the land of do as you please" and chaos is "the land of take what you want". One of the main contrasts between anarcho-communism and marxist communism is the Modus operandi, the method of operation. Marxist Communism focuses on creating a dictatorship of the proletarian whereas anarcho-communism wishes to demolish authority altogether. However they all have the same end point, a classless and stateless free society/community.

    There is a difference between a free economy and a free market/capitalism. A free economy means the individual can sell/buy goods without interferrence whereas the capitalism the goal is to make a profit, generally at whatever costs, leading to oppression which anarchists are opposed to.

    One last interesting thing, most of the concepts and ideas of capitalism came from the writings of Karl Marx. "Das Kapital" is used by big companies on how to direct their businesses. They tend to ignore Marx's critiques but follow his economic theories of monopolies and the value of labour.