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Are you religious?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by rolfwar, Apr 22, 2012.

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    Moot point. When air (which contains oxygen) travels fast enough to matter, it's called wind. No oxygen, no air; no air, no wind.
     
    #281 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  2. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Cerberus, again, I'm not trying to prove that God exists. Though there would be no wind without Oxygen, you still can't see the wind.
     
    #282 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  3. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    That's right, and we can't see oxygen either but the environment needs both to go on about its business. God isn't needed, it has no impact on nature, it is trivial.
     
    #283 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  4. Darkbringer

    Darkbringer Huntsman

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    Isn't the point actually that atheists need proof to believe in God, while religious people just believe in it? That makes the whole "proving that god exists"-discussion useless. Jus' sayin'.
     
    #284 Darkbringer, Sep 22, 2012
  5. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Exactly, Darkbringer has it right.
     
    #285 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  6. Lagtagbag

    Lagtagbag Well-Known Member

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    it's easy-peasy being an agnostic then.
     
    #286 Lagtagbag, Sep 22, 2012
  7. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    No need to placate him, you were both clearly missing the point of the discussion which was: an invisible natural element is essential for the wheels of nature to keep turning, a supernatural one isn't. The end. :drum:
     
    #287 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  8. rolfwar

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    ". If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."[Bertrand Russell]

    then just admit that you WANt to believe in God and that you have faith in its existance,although it deos not exist until contrary evidence...
     
    #288 rolfwar, Sep 22, 2012
  9. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    That is one masterfully worded metaphor.
     
    #289 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  10. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Then again, a teacup floating in an exact place in the universe, is far more rediculous than believing that we were created by an intelligent being for a reason.

    I of course want to believe in God and I do believe that God exists. If I cannot prove it, so be it. Don't believe me. But there's no way you can disprove it.
     
    #290 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  11. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    I think I'm about to have a nervous breakdown.

    Q: Is there water in the glass?
    A: No.
    Q: Can you prove it?
    A: No.
    Q: Why?
    A: Because it's not there.
     
    #291 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  12. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Q: Is there water in that glass?
    A: Yes.
    Q: Can you prove it?
    A: No.
    Q: Why?
    A: Because it's not the type of water that you can naturally see with your human eyes.
     
    #292 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  13. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    It truly is hopeless, you still don't understand.
     
    #293 cerberus, Sep 22, 2012
  14. rolfwar

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    If you offend my floating teapot,i can offend your God.

    -And again,it's not like God exists because we can't disprove it....
     
    #294 rolfwar, Sep 22, 2012
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    He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future. - Adolf Hitler.
     
    #295 VanillaToshi, Sep 22, 2012
  16. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Sorry if I offended your teapot, I just thought that you don't believe in it, that's why I seemed disrespectful. Sorry, I'll take it back. You have my deepest apologies :)

    Very true. I cannot prove that He exists, and you cannot prove that he doesn't exist. We just keep believing what we believe, and have respect for each others' thoughts, meanings and beliefs, no matter how stupid they might seem to one another :)
     
    #296 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  17. rolfwar

    rolfwar Well-Known Member
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    So you know to be worshipping a non-existing God?
     
    #297 rolfwar, Sep 22, 2012
  18. Skaara Dreadlocks

    Skaara Dreadlocks Tha Baws

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    Rolf... Though I can't prove it to someone else, I have proven it to myself. I believe in it. I choose to believe in it. God doesn't necessarily have to be non-existant just because I cannot prove that He does exist.

    Just like the way Cerberus believes in the Evolution Theory because he has seen huge ammounts of evidence that supports it. I, for one part, am personally not convinced by that proof; I'd need more proof than what there is before I could possibly be convinced.

    Why? Because we are different. And that's just how it is.
     
    #298 Skaara Dreadlocks, Sep 22, 2012
  19. rolfwar

    rolfwar Well-Known Member
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    Skaara wtf....you could have just said it earlier that this is your personal view of the world....we could have just avoided all the talking
     
    #299 rolfwar, Sep 22, 2012
  20. Darkbringer

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    At this point it seems like Skaara, or me, for that sake, are looked down upon because we can't prove the existence of god? Seriously, guys? Because we can't prove our belief?
     
    #300 Darkbringer, Sep 22, 2012
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