Are you religious?

Well dont let them get to you. My 2 best friends are lesbians and i am going to a gay marriage soon aswel. As a straight male you constant get these retarded replies like "You just stick around with them so you get a threesome". I have watched a third friend getting kicked out of house, because she told her parents that she was gay. Her family and herself being religious, i cant understand this type of treatment.

If god, allah, or ANY other creature out there did not wanted gay persons on this world, then it wouldnt have existed. And if it is "against nature", then somebody better explain to me the dozens dozens dozens and dozens of animals out there in wich gayness occurs.(sorry cant find the exact word)


Sorry, but i just saw the world of holibi's trough a straight male's eyes, and it hurted me to see the disrespect, the hatred, the pain that they recieved because of some (sorry i am gonna say it) stupid words written by some religious folks.........

 

I know you are not, so no offence taken.

in regards as why he did not tell us what to choose, I believe the reason being that he gives us freedom to choose as we please, without imposing on us. he made us free to make our own mistakes and find our own paths in life. like parents giving their kids freedom and choice, and if the fall, they will be there to help them get up and try again. I guess because god, or whatever it is, loves us enough to do that.

@theta123:

oh, I don't, don't you worry! I was very lucky my parents were understanding of it. I used to care when I was younger, but now, whomever don't like it, there is the door. their loss, not mine.

and yes, you are right, the bible/koran wasn't writen by god or jesus or allah, but by people many years after the facts. humans are imperfect, and there were always will be as many interpretations of the bible/koran as people are on this planet.

 

Glad to hear that!

 

Ha ha, yeah, you got me there! Had a good long laugh there...

 

Well maybe of you hard that Lithuania is kinda harsh for gays/lesbians out there and yes that is mostly true. I lolz when most of the lithuanians that took a part in the survey voted that they would better have a crimial as a neighbor than a gay
Well, but it is kinda sad aswell. As being straight male i dont hate gays/lesbians as most of my fellow lithuanians. A lot of famous men in history where gays like Alexander the Great, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo and others. And i really dont get why some people are so against them it is not likely that they do harm to others and i really dont mind what they wear or how long there hair is...COMM ON i use Vilnius transport every day ( buses and that other things that are powerred with elektricity ) i see a lot of differend people: gays, lesbians, black, asians, hobos and well most what my country has to offer. And i really hate people who makes fun of them. They are the real society trash.
And the other thing that theta shocked me about that parents can be so creul to there children...well i dont think any of them choosed to be this way and if parents so easilly can trown there own children out to the street, then...well im just sad of people stupidy....
Well im a guy that can tolerate others and if that activity isnt meant to harm or insult others then i 100% approve of it. The real problem is with people that think they can do whatever they want, no matter the consequences. They are the ones that really need to change.
So to all "other" people: Just stay awesome and dont let society, friends or parents to get you down

P.S.On random skype conversation one of my "friends" thought that im gay, because i watch MLP FiM and called me faggot... My answer was

[YOUTUBE]IERFINnOS04[/YOUTUBE] :lol:

 

LOL'd at the above post when Ranger spoke of alot of people in history were gays.

It's really true that many of the people in history, many that made history, did engage in homosexual acts, but were never called for their sh*t. Actually if you guys would read this link: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ValuesDissonance/RealLife and Go to the Sexuality section, you can see how it explains that during ancient times, NO ONE GAVE TWO CRAPS IF YOU WERE GAY.

And now look at today, gay people are continuously getting harassed, bullied and killed just because of a misunderstanding. Also, turns out in ancient times...

... STRAIGHT SEXUALITY IS DISCOURAGED...

It's a strange world we live in folks. Strange world. xD

 

When people use religion as a basis for their argument on political issues (especially in the U.S., with important issues like abortion and gay marriage) you're going to have some problems.

U.S. Constitution clearly defines that a separation of church and state must exist; so why are we using religious beliefs to define law about marriage?

North Carolina (if you're familiar with recent news) screwed up badly in my opinion.

 

" Religion and greed couse millinos to bleed " -No, humanity would have been better without religion in my opinion.

 

That is actually a short-thoughted decision, not to be rude or anything. Because religion causes much more gathering and peaceful solutions than they cause war. Their warring is just so noticed because they are primarily supposed to not do it at all. There has been a lot more warring over ideology than over religion.

 

Yes, and Wicca.

 

Let's take a look at history first:

The Crusades. The Thirty Years War. Without going into specifics, the Islamic Jihad. The Buddhist Uprising. All of Israel's wars (although that's a combination of factors). The Lebanese Civil War. The Second Sudanese Civil War. The French Wars of Religion.

Although they aren't wars, the Spanish and Papal Inquisitions, as well as hundreds of untold persecutions because of religion.

Current affairs:

All of the Middle East, and in all reality most African wars have been over religion.

Even political turmoil in one's country has been largely because of people's religious beliefs; e.g. abortion and gay rights.

Yes, ideology may have caused more wars, but does that justify the plethora of wars caused by religion? No.

 

Nope, it doesn't justify it. But as I said, religion makes people gather and find things in common more than it makes war. Same with ideologies. Nothing in life is perfect. An organization that doesn't war or support war for themselves is something that you rarely find in the world. No matter whether it's religion, ideology or anything else.

 

I agree with Skaara. Religion has been the cause of very few wars, if you look at history. For instance, the Crusades were a defensive war by the European countries against a rapidly expanding muslim empire. The fact that the two religions were opposed obviously helped build that up, of course. But primarily, it was a very natural war.

 

I think its funny that two religions that share the same origin and basic ideas can oppose each other so much...

 

It's because the fundamental things they believe in differ greatly: Catholics believe in the Trinity (One God, three persons [Father, Son, and Holy Spirit]) while Muslims say this is polytheism, and that God is just one person. It's a very theological argument. Also, Catholics view Jesus as being both God and man, while Muslims say the is only man.

And then there's the whole thing with Muslims saying women are meant to be lower than men, which the Catholic Church disagrees with...

 

Yes, religion brings people together; within that sect of their own religion. But isn't it fair to say that different religions oppose each other? Even Christianity has several branches, even though they all have the same fundamental beliefs (Eastern Orthodox vs. Roman Catholic).

But you're right, there are very few organizations in today's world that don't war/support war, but it's always been like this: now we have technology to kill people in an easier fashion. But, a technology debate is something for an entirely different thread :3

And Streff: I think he may have been talking about Judaism. The only difference between Christianity and Judaism is our "messiah", as well as some other minor stuff. We believe it was Jesus, but they are still waiting for theirs (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

Yeah, I was thinking that myself. The Church and the Jews have never had any large open warfare as far as i know, though. I'd be very interested to know more if there was some kind of conflict in the past.

And yes, that's exactly right. Christianity and Judaism are very close. The Catholic Church is regarded (by Catholics) as a kind of continuity of the one true religion. (Of course, this is a very basic breakdown of all the history and clarification that goes into it!)

 

Da f its this. I just tipes jews in LT google and other meaning that i got was "jews in lithuania". then i tryed co.uk google and guess what..the 3rd meaning after jews and jewson(?) is the same... Then i opened wiki link *Jews in Lithuania* and readed all article. And i noticed one sentence:'During the German invasion of June 1941, 206,800 Jews were murdered by the Nazis and Lithuanian collaborators'. Yes i wont lie it is true, but i dont see why we are hated for doing so until this day. Because it was 95% Nazis that did that and only 5% of lithaunians. But nazi propaganda that was mostly of taken pictures how some random lithuanian that shooted a jew and posters and so on made those 5% to 50%. The other thing is after the nazi ocupasion there was second USSRS one in witch a lot of jews worked with USSR special groups and betrayed a lot of lithuanians that where later send to Siberia and only few ever returned in total more than 50k of lithuanians where send in only few months period. So after Nazi beated the crap of USSR army in Lithuania it was just normal thing that lithuanians will want revange. And now half the world see us as jews murderers...

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Jews

 

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