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Do you like and consider eSports real sports?

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  1. Env

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    Haha then I guess we have different opinions on what a sport is. When people ask what sport you play, I doubt alot of people say 'I play computer games for a sport'
     
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    I am a professional computer athlete :D

    I am somewhere in the middle with my opinion, i dont think its a sport per se but I would call it a sport because if it wasnt called a sport people wouldnt have as much respect for it. I believe it deserves the same kind of respect normal sports get.
     
  3. CrownedClown

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    It's something called "norm".
    For example if people start calling gaming with the word aldiaosdoasdasdasd in few years that will be the norm and it will be the official word for gaming(replacing it).
    Same with eSports. It has already been established as a norm, so there can't really be any offical discussion on whether it's a sport or not. It's a fact. Everything else is just personal opinion :)

    Generally humanity matures and advances and if hundreds of years ago women had the same rights as farm animals now we all know things are different.
    Same with classifications and everything else.

    Btw if I play eSports and I'm making the 4-5 figures they make(top SC players earn over 100,000$ yearly) I'll definitely say I play eSports. Doubt anyone would be able to say anything disregarding.
     
  4. Env

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    eSports will never have the history real sports do though. That's the main reason why this is even up for discussion. Even when we share our opinions, we categorize Sports and eSports separately; and IMO, they will continue to be characterized separately.
     
  5. CrownedClown

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    Yeah I doubt that they will ever be as popular as normal sports.

    Btw in the original olympic games there were a lot of disciplines that weren't physical one of them being Poetry...
    Even in recent years(1948) there was art competition in the olympic games - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_competitions_at_the_1948_Summer_Olympics
     
  6. Env

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    Yup and I agree.

    Well, that's why we call them artists and poets and not athletes.
     
  7. CrownedClown

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    Yeah, but in the original olympic games(talking about the very first) they were considered athletes :p
    With time however that changed.
     
  8. Env

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    Haha I guess time did change that. Society as a whole decided that something like that wasn't considered a sport so they removed it from the games. Just like how eSports and real sports will continue to be thought differently. It's society's take on it - not our individual views. The whole regards eSports as not real sports so we as individuals agree on it.
     
  9. CrownedClown

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    That's just it. Society already regards eSports as real sports and that's why eSport players are being issued Athlete's VISAs. Each country that houses eSports tournaments give this type of visa for them meaning it's official. Can't get any more official ;P
     
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    That may be true, but a lot of people still won't consider it a sport no matter how tough it may be especially someone that is not white or someone that plays a physical sport.
     
  11. Env

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    Yeah exactly. I really don't consider Nascar a sport at all. Hell they just drive around in circles and it's just a waste of gas in my opinion.
     
  12. montreal176

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    I would not classify it as a sport. But i love E-sports and feel that they will soon takeover television. Its a long shot but they are becoming huge.
     
  13. Chris_A

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    Esports might one day be recognized as true sports, simply because of the dedication these "e-athletes". While I`m still unsure if it can truly be considered a sport, many of these guys train and play for months before a big event, just like real athletes do, and just like a star 100m runner, great e-athletes have also a well established fanbase, cheering them on, so the lines are definitely starting to blur as far as eSports go in my opinion.
     
  14. thejamal

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    Sort of depends on your definition of a "sport". There's no doubt, that pro-gamers put just as much time, if not more into their craft than pro athletes do. I wouldn't call pro-games athletes, but I think it's not fair to them to not say they're pro's at what they do.

    There's also fanbases for gamers, esport teams, etc. I think that's important in determining whether eSports become "accepted" or not.
     
  15. CrownedClown

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    It seems that a lot of people aren't understanding that eSports have been recognized as a real sport for a long time now. All the professional games that go to other countries to play in tournaments get athlete's visas, which means that the countries have already decided that eSports are real sports. Everything else is just personal thoughts.
     
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    If you don't break a sweat, cant tear a muscle or draw blood, its not a sport. We have The Sports Network here (Really TSN - lame name). Darts is not a sport. Pool is not a sport. Poker is not a sport. Golf and curing, getting closer, but they never would have earned me credit in a PE course so - no, not a sport. As for a tournament making it a sport? Look forward to the next national spelling bee or scrabble tournament.
     
  17. CrownedClown

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    Well in my university we have chess listed as sport. Also I've already written this, but poetry was part of the original olympic games and not just poetry, there were even more "unsportly" events, but I can't really remember them at the moment.
    I'm too lazy to check up if I have explained, but I'll do a simple explanation again. There is something called "norm". The norm decides when something is... well whatever it is. For example the word "colonel" I'm sure you are aware it's read as kernel(transcription - kɜrnəl). It should be read colonel(as you write it), however since everyone pronounce it as kernel it has become a norm and now it will be grammatically incorrect if you read it colonel(which is the proper way it should be read).
    Same for sports. The ancient greek thought that poetry is equal to wrestling, but over the years we defined sport as something that involves physical activity(from your thoughts apparently A LOT of physical activity), however with recent years that has changed. While in year 2000 it might have been funny to consider eSports, chess and other similar "brain" competitive games as sports, now they are full-fledged sports and there is no real debate on whether they are or not.
    As I've said if the countries are giving them athlete's visas there can't really be anything to argue on this.
     
  18. thejamal

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    I think we're talking more about them being accepted by the general public though, just not by gamers. As you said, something has to be accepted as a "norm". I'm not so sure you can really say eSports are accepeted on a mass scale.
     
  19. CrownedClown

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    What I meant is that they are accepted on a mass scale... they are officially recognized as a sport with all countries and that's why esport players who go to tournaments in other countries don't get tourist/business visas, but get athletes visas. That means that eSports have been accepted by the law and as far as I know there isn't any more official way to accept something then to write it as a law.