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Drm

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by TheStalker, Jan 20, 2013.

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Thoughts on drm?

  1. Gog ftw!

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  2. its fundamentaly wrong but necessary

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  3. im okay with it

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  4. its a gold thing that needs to b we implemented better

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  5. im not partial twoards or against it.

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  1. Darkbringer

    Darkbringer Huntsman

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    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen, Mr. Pip asked the same question on page 1 of this topic. The answer was given by yours truly on the very same page...
     
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    Wikipedia:
    The process of my brain upon reading the above:
    After reading the text thrice, I can eventually put the words in correct seats and know what they all mean by pondering over them and repeating them, but the first time I read it, all I read was "Blaablaablaaa".

    After straining my mind to read the first paragraph, I end up with the same knowledge and conclusion as I had before. To find more information on the subject, or other specific information, I'd have to search through the whole text, which is impossible when not understanding it. Other than that, I'd have to read through the text twice or thrice, which is out of the question. In other words: Lazyness, there you have it.

    I was rather hoping one of you could give me a determined and simple explanation of what DRM is and how it works instead of me having to start a whole friggen study on the subject. That's one of the reasons I hate googling stuff.
     
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    Not the brightest of fellows, eh... What did I say on the bottom of page 1?
    I don't know how much more you want me to oversimplify this?

    Defectivebydesign.org wrote this as a definition of DRM:

    "Digital Restrictions Management is technology that controls what you can do with the digital media and devices you own. When a program doesn't let you share a song, read an ebook on another device, or play a game without an internet connection, you are being restricted by DRM. In other words, DRM creates a damaged good. It prevents you from doing what would normally be possible if it wasn't there, and this is creating a dangerous situation for freedom, privacy and censorship."
     
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    Thank you very much :)
     
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    Really the only forms of DRM I agree with is something like Gamespy where you have to log in and it makes sure that you have a legit copy of the game and that's only for multiplayer. I don't like the way Diablo 3 works.
     
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    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    Gog ftw, of course.
    Have you ever pirated anything? Have you ever known any pirates in person? Each pirate has his or her own reasons for doing so, and thus you cannot generalize on such a wide scale.
    Actually, it's usually the publishers that implement DRM and the developers are often against it, but don't always speak out in fear of losing their jobs. Btw, CD Projekt RED's games have been pirated more times in Eastern Europe alone than they have been sold internationally. What did this cause? CD Projekt followed up on their promises and removed DRM from all versions of The Witcher 2; people who previously pirated the game started buying copies of it.

    As you may know, CD Projekt (who make The Witcher video game series, are now working on Cyberpunk 2077 and run GOG.com) have a similar policy to Valve when it comes to piracy, but they actually do it right without all the bullshit and DRM. They're what Valve could have been, had Valve not grown into a corporation and were they not owned by one person.
    You really don't know much about piracy, do you? :p The Call of Duty series is one of the most popular series to pirate in countries like Poland and Russia.
     
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    I'm just going to pretend I understand this, ok....

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  9. madliu

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    I hate DRM. It screws all my purchased videos and games.

    Update: Anyone who want to strip out the DRM protection from videos and audios can go to this site: http://drm-assistant.com
     
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    Witcher 2 disagrees.
     
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    How, exactly? I'm pretty sure CD Projekt RED did the exact same thing but better than Valve (no Steam DRM). Most copies of The Witcher 2 did not contain DRM and the ones that did were offered free patches to remove it after complaints from consumers.
     
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    Yes they did no DRM, gave the enhanced edition for free and still it is the highest pirated game.

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/10/15/t...rated-game-at-top-torrent-university-rutgers/

    Thieves/Pirates will steal regardless if something is value for money or make any excuse to justify their actions.
     
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    oh yeah. But that just proves drm does nothing. It doesnt stop these guys. And just encourages piracy. Removing drm doesnt cuase a surge in piracy it doesnt change it. Sp what is the perpouse of drm then.
     
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    It does not encourage it. People who are going to steal and are in the habit of stealing will do it anyway. They will make any excuse to justify their action (price, game length, drm, content etc)

    If you don't like a game, don't buy it! If a publisher sees low sales they will eventually scrap game. Take Brink for example.

    So if DRM limits people from playing online; makes cracking harder for thieves then why should it be stopped?

    DRM is no different to If you lock your car or install intruder alarms when you go out to prevent opportunists from breaking in. It only sucks to people who actually pay for games, but then you have to see where publishers are coming from.
     
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    TheStalker Dragon Slayer

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    DRM is very different. Not all games have online and it has been possible for some time to get online games through pirating. But why not just use something that deters pirates as well without affecting the consumer?
    Why not just use deterrents? For gods sake why can't we use them?
    They are true drm not this foolishness. Serious Sam and crysis warhead use them and they stop piracy just as well as DRM without affecting the consumer.
     
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    i dont like Dee Argg EM with its error 37 and simcity style problems but i can see the whole point point behind it
     
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    Simcity hacked, now playable offline. In yer arse, EA. In yer arse...