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Metro: Last Light Limited Edition features hardcore Ranger Mode

Discussion in 'Metro: Last Light General Discussion' started by majnu, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    It made 2033 playable for me. I could not imagine myself playing Last Light without it either and the fact that they're holding it back for ransom with an unlock key is outrageous. Oh and, mark my words, Ranger Mode is not DLC. It's on-disc ULC.
    Actually, I did. I kind of foresaw it with one of my very first posts on this board.
     
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  2. Shurfire

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    So the true fans aren't anything? The people who pre-ordered or purchased the original game at full price are nothing? I've bought a lot of THQ games in the past but this is just low. That Spacemarine online pass was also bs. Same with homefront. If I would have known that homefront needed an online pass I would have never bought it. THQ has been falling and what they don't know is that you can't just push someone into buying your product.
     
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  3. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    But that you think of pirating it disappointed me too.
    And I think that you can play on Hardcore without Limited Edition for 5 euros more .But why you won't buy Limited Edition?It costs the same as the "Normal Edition".

    But there are two ways that are right:

    1:You buy it
    or
    2:You buy it not
    But Pirating it is The False way
     
    #123 Heavygunner, Dec 16, 2012
  4. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    It's disappointing that a fellow gamer is willing to bend to the will of his corporate masters.
    There are two ways business can be done:

    1. The honest way (full price = full game, GOG.com, GOTY/Complete Editions, etc.)
    or
    2. The corrupt way (THQ, Capcom, 2K, EA, etc.; on-disc ULC, premium DLC that was cut beforehand, extortion passes, malicious DRM, online activation, etc.)
     
    #124 cerberus, Dec 16, 2012
  5. Bamul

    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    Yes, like I said, we are just a source of income for the company. That's how this system works (and one of the reasons why I think it's primitive and should be abolished). :p

    Btw, guys: pirating is not the "evil" that many make it out to be. As you know, the economical situations in places like Poland, Ukraine and Russia are much worse than that of Western countries. People in those places simply have much less money and they often don't have the cash to spend on gaming, so pirating is the only way for them to get digital entertainment. I knew a pirate in Poland who was really awesome.

    He, just like me and my family when we lived there, did not have a lot of money. He pirated all of the time, but if there was a game that he really liked (or a film or an album), then he bought the legal version too to show his support. He just didn't have the money to spend on games hoping that they were worth it - so he used piracy to test anything he wanted. Also, I'd say piracy in circumstances like these is also a lot more acceptable than horrible business practices.

    But anyway, like I said earlier: if the country you live in has more strict regulation of the internet than the Slavic countries of Eastern Europe (not sure what it's like in other countries of Eastern Europe), then I wouldn't recommend piracy because it's much more risky. THQ are putting us in a difficult situation. We either pre-order/buy the game at release to get what we want, thus showing with the money we spend that we support practices like these - or we buy the normal edition/not buy the game at all, thus not getting what we want but also showing that we don't support them screwing us over.
     
    #125 Bamul, Dec 16, 2012
  6. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    Pirating is stealing and stealing is evil.
     
    #126 Heavygunner, Dec 16, 2012
  7. cerberus

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    Extortion is evil as well, yet I don't see you objecting to it? In fact, I see you defending it.

    Regardless, there's a grey zone when it comes to piracy, which I'll get into later when Piracy got its own topic.
     
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  8. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    Extortion?!:twitch:You mean THQ is Extortion you?!Either i don't understand you or you are crazy.

    PS: I hate pirating and Google translater-_-
     
    #128 Heavygunner, Dec 16, 2012
  9. majnu

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    I don't know what country you're from (maybe Russia or China) where Piracy is more common than buying milk, but where I'm from it's illegal.

    There is no grey area, it's simple as black and white!!!

    If you don't like THQ's practice then don't buy the game, if you want to pirate or are thinking of pirating Metro Last Light then there is no need to announce it to the World. (Some things you should keep to yourself as this is not PirateBay!!)

    It's degrading to the forum and will be read eventually by THQ. If this forum condones Piracy instead of condemning it then I don't want to be a part of it and I'll join enterthemetro instead.

    Luster if you're reading this, then take note!!!
     
    #129 majnu, Dec 16, 2012
  10. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    ^ 100% agree
     
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    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    Majnu, this forum does not condone piracy. It allows free speech. If you do not agree with that, then perhaps you'd feel better at a website like Stormfront.

    Also, nothing is as simple as black & white. Good and evil are only points of view.
     
    #131 Bamul, Dec 16, 2012
  12. Hoenkoper

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    No it's not, it's Pirating.

    For example, when you steal a cookie from someone, you have a cookie and he doesn't have one anymore, so he misses it. By pirating, there is made a copy of the original and you download that one. You have your copy and the owner of the original still has the original, so doesn't miss it.

    Stealing in the Netherland is forbidden, Pirating is not.
     
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  13. cerberus

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    No, it isn't and it's degrading to your intellect that you fail to see why.

    Rest assured, I will not buy the game nor will I be pirating it. Being the intelligent and patient man than I am, I will be waiting for a GOTY edition. Just like I did with L.A. Noire, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Batman: Arkham Asylum/City, etc.
    Indeed, you just don't understand what's going on here.

    Here's a definition of extortion:
    The crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority.

    For example:
    - "Buy the Limited Edition or we won't give you access to Ranger Mode."
    - "Buy the Standard Edition and Ranger Mode is still not available until you pay extra for an unlock key."

    In layman's terms, at its most basic level, it boils down to: "Do this, or else...", There is no other way to see it.
     
    #133 cerberus, Dec 16, 2012
  14. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    Do your work,or else you get no money=Exortion?!!!!
     
    #134 Heavygunner, Dec 16, 2012
  15. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic misinterpretation, Mr. Gunner. Bravo, A+.
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    Now, you gentlemen play nice. Buy or don't buy, the choice is yours. But be aware of the fact that you're sending the wrong message to THQ.

    Cheerio!
     
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  16. STALKER_2012

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    You guys seriously overreact. It's just a Limited Edition, like the Limited Edition of Battlefield 3 which only came with a code for a DLC or the Day1-Editions of the Assassin's Creed games with ingame shit. It's not a Collector's Edition - just a Limited Edition!

    Some of you really have some complexes :rolleyes:
     
    #136 STALKER_2012, Dec 16, 2012
  17. Heavygunner

    Heavygunner Well-Known Member
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    ^Like
     
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  18. Hoenkoper

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    It's not that simple, THQ is forcing us to pre-order (or maybe pay extra for DLC) for the ranger hardcore mode. This mode made Metro 2033 great for many fans. 4A games told that it would be in Last Light again and we (or atleast myself) were expecting it simple would be in every edition. Now they just cut it out the game and want you to pre-order it or pay for it, otherwise you can't play it. This is cheap and a kick in the nuts for every fan. THIS should be illegal, not pirating.
     
    #138 Hoenkoper, Dec 16, 2012
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    ^Like
     
    #139 Bamul, Dec 16, 2012
  20. Darkbringer

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    Exactly. They remove it from the standard edition, rather than invent something new for the limited edition. And if you don't come around to pre-order, they can charge 5€ and say,"Yeah too bad you didn't preorder", when it was them who removed it from the game. It's not a bonus for the LE buyers, it's subtracted from the vanilla version.
     
    #140 Darkbringer, Dec 16, 2012
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