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Pirating

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Darkbringer, Dec 18, 2012.

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  1. Wolve_NZ

    Wolve_NZ Well-Known Member

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  2. VietnamVeteran

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    Pirating is bad. I usually buy them If they're worth It.
     
    #42 VietnamVeteran, Dec 24, 2012
  3. VietnamVeteran

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    Its supportive to the developers.
     
    #43 VietnamVeteran, Dec 24, 2012
  4. cerberus

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    Approaching piracy with the mindset of "try before you buy"; every pirated copy downloaded can lead to a potential sale. Which, in turn, benefits both the developer and the publisher.
     
    #44 cerberus, Dec 24, 2012
  5. Nod2033

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  6. cerberus

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    Oh sweet irony.
     
    #46 cerberus, Dec 26, 2012
  7. cerberus

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    Another remark I'd like to make concerning piracy: draconian DRM methods are supposed to fight piracy, yet it only affects and the honest consumer (beautiful example: Diablo III's Error 37). You don't hear the pirates complain... In other words: DRM doesn't work. It only encourages piracy and, some cases, justifies it.
     
    #47 cerberus, Jan 11, 2013
  8. TheStalker

    TheStalker Dragon Slayer

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    I know cereberus. Its like traction control in a car. You lose all control and the computer practically drives for you . But when it fails you die. And it ALWAYS fails. Plus its annoying and not as fun.
     
    #48 TheStalker, Jan 11, 2013
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    #49 cerberus, Jan 16, 2013
  10. Komodo Saurian

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    Never knew Andrew Ryan would build an underwater tracker.
     
    #50 Komodo Saurian, Jan 16, 2013
  11. Bamul

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    This made me chuckle - loved it.
     
    #51 Bamul, Jan 17, 2013
  12. cerberus

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  13. dahksinol

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    I guess the main reason why the publishers and developers of games dislike Secondhand Gaming is this:

    You are buying the original game with all the perks, the freebies and the cool signatures with it, WITHOUT the publishers and devs profiting from it. This is opposed to piracy which is 'free' but does not include several features of the original game (which is common nowadays anyway). So yeah, one could say Secondhand Gaming is WORSE than Piracy, because though you pay for it, you're not giving royalties to the Development team that made it, nor are you supporting the gaming company that publish it, even when you get the full package.
     
    #53 dahksinol, Jan 20, 2013
  14. cerberus

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    Dahksinol, help me understand why on earth publishers deserve another cut from a game that is simply switching owners? From a business point of view, I completely understand that a used sale is a lost new sale but this is where consumer rights come into play. It's illogical, not to mention greedy and highly unethical for publishers to demand yet another cut from the very same copy that was puchased new at one point in time.

    Industry analyst Michael Pachter had this (video here) to say about used games and he's absolutely, 100% right.

    I'd also like to throw this in here: even if used games are the culprit, the publisher's war is with Gamestop and not the consumer.
     
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  15. TheStalker

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    I agreewith cereberus.
     
    #55 TheStalker, Jan 20, 2013
  16. dahksinol

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    Well, I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's how I think they feel about this.

    I still however prefer to buy an unused one however, for the sake of supporting the dev team, which deserve it. If I don't like the game, I won't buy it, I won't pirate it, nor would I rent it. Easy as that.
     
    #56 dahksinol, Jan 20, 2013
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    Of course they deserve it but...
    And those royalties, my friend, are peanuts compared to what the fatcats get.

    Developers would do themselves a huge favour by getting rid of the burden of publishers and go full indie, so to speak. Not too long ago I bumped into a video of Oddworld creator Lorne Lanning's presentation at last year's Eurogamer expo, who uttered some very enlightening words.
     
    #57 cerberus, Jan 21, 2013
  18. dahksinol

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    That is the sad truth.

    But, I do believe it is the publishers that sponsor and finance the game. I guess the publishers also deserve some money to compensate, but not at the rate which they make.

    I don't know much on how the system works, and I won't try to understand all the complexities, but from what I know, which may be wrong mind you, publishers are the ones that get the games on the t.v., billboards, flyers and posters and the like to advertise it and all. They use the names of the publishers to sell the game, if I'm right.
     
    #58 dahksinol, Jan 22, 2013
  19. Wolve_NZ

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    with Dahkie on this one ^^
     
    #59 Wolve_NZ, Jan 22, 2013
  20. Shurfire

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    People who pirate a game only care about not paying for it. It has nothing to do with DRM, they just care about not paying.
     
    #60 Shurfire, Jan 22, 2013
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