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Please hybrid Ranger Normal and Ranger Hardcore

Discussion in 'Metro: Last Light General Discussion' started by soundcreepy, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    In the spirit of a renewed understanding, how about a slightly different approach to this argument?

    Let's consider the watch in Metro: it's a pretty clever diegetic device that conveys information to the player in a way that does not violate "gaming's fourth wall."

    Now, I haven't seen anyone arguing that the stopwatch detracts from a player's immersion. But here's a surprise: unlike looking in your backpack to determine the number of mags you have left, you can't actually calculate how much time is left on a given filter because in the real world, how long a filter lasts varies as you pass into and out of areas of varying environmental contamination.

    On top of this, the system as implemented is actually pretty gamey: you don't pick up discrete filters, you merely add to a global pool of filter time that is divided into 5 minute sliding partitions.

    So, nobody complains about a somewhat gamey stopwatch mechanic, but when someone suggests that we should be able to glance in our backpack to see that we have 6 mags left, why, THAT'S THE WORST SORT OF MADNESS?!

    And to be clear, I have no real problem with a somewhat gamey stopwatch mechanic and would actually like to see a similar system implemented to allow us to keep track of OTHER inventory information.
     
  2. Clear Sky Stalker

    Clear Sky Stalker Spartan Ranger
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    This thing has been debated so many times. Now I'm not trying to diminish everyone's points, though plenty of us have flaws in our statements/arguments, even me. But why doesn't everyone just cool down until the Dev's release the SDK? while I'm sure everyone here has point to make, we shouldn't start arguing about since the SDK should allow people here to fix the problems their having/have with Metro last light.
     
  3. Alright fine [​IMG]

    I'll make a mathematically impared mode when the SDK is released myself [​IMG]

    One throwing knife, AH AH AH
    Two throwing knives, AH AH AH

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Q Dude 87

    Q Dude 87 Member

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    I AGREE with this man
     
  5. tamalero

    tamalero Well-Known Member

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    i wouldn't complain if they added a mod to "press X button to check ammo" which will tell you the current ammo on the current weapon only (like the idle animation).. but leaving you defenseless for a bit of time.
     
  6. BLY4

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    Yeah and could you also make the weapons aim themselves. It's to hard to do all by myself ;P
     
  7. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    Just a friendly reminder: when your arguments positively can't stand on their own merits and you're too intellectually bankrupt to engage in an earnest debate, resort to image macros!
     
  8. GoodLordApollo

    GoodLordApollo The Courier

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    I've been trying to avoid this thread but since this has caused Oldo-Newo User War, I think I tried to help. Lebbers your points are quite valid and I understand where you are coming from but you should not need to insult the other person to strengthen your argument. This applies to you too Saurian and Aaron, there should be no need for insulting. Aim assist isn't the same as having the ability to check ammo, checking what ammo and resources you have is a great way to immerse a player in the experience, it makes them feel as if they are Artyom checking his backpack.

    The reason for my fellow compatriots' rude behaviour is because we have had many people wanting to make Ranger Hardcore easier, some say "It's too hard." or "It needs a HUD." We are sorry for any annoyance we may have caused.
     
  9. lebbers

    lebbers Well-Known Member

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    Well, let's be fair. Look at my posts and look at Saurian's: see any similarities? That's right, we're both dicks and we just can't help ourselves. And really, isn't it more interesting this way?
     
  10. Baron01

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    Now, can you find some funny picture and correspondingly hilarious saying for counting total character ammo?

    It would be very funny, something like:

    One 5.45×39mm, UH UH UH
    Two 5.45×39mm, UH UH HU
    Three 5.45×39mm, UH UH AH
    Four 5.45×39mm, UH UH HA
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    One hundred and forty seven 5.45×39mm, DUR HUR HUM
    ...
    ...
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    Two hundred and fifty three 5.45×39mm, DUR I'm RETARD HUR
    ...
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    Three hund*screw this shit*



    So yeah, please.
     
  11. Skaara Dreadlocks

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    [​IMG]
     
  12. Why?

    You have two full magazines for your AK-74. Try to remember that [​IMG]
     
  13. VanillaToshi

    VanillaToshi Well-Known Member

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    You don't see BF3 players complaining about not being able to check ammo on hardcore mode...
     
  14. BLY4

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    I wish when I played BF3 HC I could check how much ammo I had left. ;P
     
  15. tamalero

    tamalero Well-Known Member

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    probably because in these games.. you respawn faster than a guy changes socks.
     
  16. My k/d is 16 in BF3. I don't respawn all that much.

    It's also incorrect to compare these I think. There are no infinite ammo boxes in Metro.
     
  17. tamalero

    tamalero Well-Known Member

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    just because you dont die that much, doesn't means other dont ;)
    remember, you're the one who hasn't had any problem with shadow ranger.

    there are many players who still want autoaim, assisting and other things.
    as for insane respawn rates.. id mention COD.
     
  18. Potarto

    Potarto Well-Known Member

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    That's........peculiar.

    [​IMG]

    Huh. Checks out.
     
  19. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    wow thats uh wooooooww
     
  20. That's why I'm only talking for myself. I personally felt the need to count ammunition in my head in BF3 Hardcore mode and I appreciate Metro for doing the same.

    ...not having to keep in mind if they have two or three grenades...

    I forgot you can check profile statistics without having an account now [​IMG]