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Tank attack

Discussion in 'Pointless Fun' started by TotalAaron, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Aaron

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    When I spent a week in the Air Force things were much more tidy than what was seen here. I just wouldn't let the russiophiles on here get ahead of themselves, that's all :p
    Note that I generally like the Russian military and this is not hate or anything even remotely in that direction.
     
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    I know you weren't hating I was just looking through the pictures and everything seemed pretty normal for military life to me.
     
  4. TotalAaron

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    Ah yes the Supreame russian army that (according to cod) can invade all of europe after a smashing defeat elsewhere and not to mention their amazing ability to spawn infinite soldiers (in a can) in doorways and alcoves what a great army :)
     
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    NATO Officers were Breifed during the cold war that if USSR/WARSAW attacked in a conventional war, that Europe would fall. No Shit, Noting why their was so much development in the West on Non-Conventional Weapon systems

    Thats about true, The Normal Motor Troops are just conscripts that only have to stay in Servace for a year. What it does do though is if Russia is Attacked then they have an Un-parramount number of people that have had some military training. Recently we have seen a Massive influx of Proffesional Troops come into Servace though.

    Sounds about right, Israel Stated that RPG-29's were effective vs. Their Merkava Tanks, So called 'Gods Carriot'. One of the most Advanced Western tanks so Ive read xD
    So No Surpirse such a weapon can take down cheaper Russian tanks (About 1-2US Million Estamate on a T-72 and a 6Million Estamate on a Merkava, From Wiki so Donno how close to real it is)
     
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    A little side-note to that:
    I recently read a boom by former danish Hunter (Our special forces) about how it was during the cold war. In case WWIII broke out, he would parachute from only 500m over a Polish river during the night, then move to OP and observe an army base, notice which vehicles moved out and report back to HQ. At the time he didn't know how the exfil would be done, and when he asked the officers would just say: "We'll find out as the mission progresses". After the cold war, the Hunter requested permission to view the mission files to look for the exfiltration. But there was none. It would have been a suicide mission.

    Also, the russians were planning to nuke all of Europe and unleash horde after horde on us until any resistance had succumbed. The russian people and soldiers were obviously considered "expendable" by the Soviet leaders.
     
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    I call BS on that. C'mon....
     
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    I wish I had the source right now (I read it in a history magazine), but I'll look it up.
    This is the best I could find.
    Multiple sources confirm this, and I don't think the biggest history magazine in my country would base such a statement off guesswork.
     
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    This is wrong, The General idea was to send in WARSAW Nation forces first to attack, And once they become bogged down then USSR Forces would move in to destroy any hard Resistance.

    Most of Russian Forces had Pretty good NBC Protection, with most vehicles being NBC Capable, and Soft Skinned vehicles having Kits for NBC use and Hard Skinned vehicles being setup from Factory with NBC

    Russian Forces were some of the most well supplied in Terms of NBC, Look at the BMP's, You could still operate in a Contaminated Enviroment with ease, everything being sealed inside and you could even still use the Gun ports on the sides. The NBC Uniforms that the USSR was ready to issue had Equipment for drinking water while operating. Troops could operate in Combat until they needed food, where Dedicated De-Contamination troops would De-Contaminate the soldiers. The USSR did plan to send troops into a NBC Enviroment, but not without protection

    If anything, The West European troop and Civilian was rated as less than their WARSAW/USSR Comparison
     
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    Well if the cold war did indeed go hot (for this the 60s) MIRVS would decimate both the US and USSR. NATO would probably hold back the tidal wave of men but the Davy Crocket would have made a difference
     
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    Nasty way to go :(
     
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    Not necessarily, you'd be killed by the shear heat of the air inside the tank instantly and 99 times out of a 100 would be dead before you realized you've been hit.
     
  13. TotalAaron

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    getting turned into soup is better than a nuclear blast i suppose
     
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    But if this is true, why would they ditch the idea in 1987?
    It's not like NBC protection had got worse during the years...
     
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    @darkbringer because you cant see out of them i guess and the BC part not very likely anymore
     
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    ^This.
     
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    Yes, but the Soviet Union was close to Collapse during the last years. The Fact that they could not afford to keep their units equipped with NBC Protection come around (and Unlike the West, Rasing the Dept Celling wasnt an option)
    as well as a matter of other issues (Its not like I spend 100% of my Time studying this stuff!)

    But it became unfeasable, the World was allot differnt than what it was in the 50's-70's

    If you look at how Russia has acted to Invasion in the past, We see that they take massive punnishments until they are in a corner, Looking at the Hundreds of 'Breifcase Bombs' that were designed to, in the case of the West Invading Russia, to be Detonated, stopping them from what the Russians thought was gonning to be Cleasing of the East. This thought is formed out of the Recent WW2 cleansing that the Germans did, and all the way back to Neopolean who did the same.

    During the USSR, Russia, had the Conventional power to Win, but were still shit scared of NBC Threats. Imagine the world as a Zoo, The animals were Russians and the Zoo keepers were the West, The Animals, if they broke out could kill the Zoo Keepers with ease, but the Zoo keepers could kill the Animals before they broke out. Thats why allot of the Soviet Plans are 'Backwards' as its writtin' from the opposite Perspective, from a people that thought in 10 years, they Could possibly be no more
     
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    *sniffle.. That's deep man...
     
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    :laugh:
     
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    POOR wolve_NZ now the moderator is picking on him