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What is happening with Russia and Ukraine now?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Derrame, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. No, yesterday Poroshenko claimed that a russian military convoy crossed the border and was destroyed, but no evidence or proof was presented.

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    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    You shouldn't fully trust anything that comes out of Ukraine at this point, as both Kiev and Moscow are lying through their teeth and the worldwide journalistic race for being the first to publish only results in more misinformation and contradictory news.
     
  3. The White House says it cannot confirm reports that Ukrainian troops destroyed a Russian military convoy that had allegedly crossed into eastern Ukraine.

    Could it be because Kiev likes to make shit up?

    Perhaps it would be a good idea for Western media to stop printing everything the government in Kiev says under the guise of legitimate news and instead exercise some restraint. Don't they care about their own credibility?

    Ukraine has officially recognized a Russia-International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) aid convoy as humanitarian.

    Right Sector threatens armed march on Kiev unless police drop charges against supporters. Here is their official statement.

    Google translate doesn't help much, so here is a summary by paragraph:

     
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    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    I've heard about this as well... if this happens then all those self-proclaimed antifascists in Eastern Ukraine will have to deal with an actual full-on fascist Kiev. :eek:hwell:
     
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    I guess the ukrainians are better than the swiss when it comes to cleaning up: they have destroyed a russian convoy but there are no corpses, no wrecks, no smoke....nothing.
     
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    Good one.
    Well, not only that they have problems with Russia, Russian seperatist now they have new facist speratist: Party ukraine style.

    So what do you think will happen? What about one Russian ukraine, one facist ukraine and a facist facist² ukraine? Sounds like fun for the whole family. ;)
     
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    The splitting of Ukraine is not that unlikely.

    What i want to see is on what basis the West will uphold the sanctions against Russia after it will turn out that the plane was shot down by the Ukrainians.

    Alternatively, they could admit :" Ooops, we fucked up!" and resolve themselves to never ever listen to the Uncle Sam. At which point Putin will have secured the next 10 elections in Russia.

    Another funny thing is the reasoning behind the sanctions :"Russia gave a BUK missile system to the rebels, who later used it to down a civilian plane. Therefore, Russia is responsible and should be sanctioned." Lolwut? Since when is anybody responsible of how the guns they sell are used?

    If there were such a thing in international law, i'm pretty sure all the members of cabinet and MPs of the US since the late 30s should have been locked up for life.
     
  8. TheDarknessEnvelops

    TheDarknessEnvelops Lion Triumphant

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    No one seems to care that American supplied weapons are killing civilians everyday in Gaza
     
  9. A lot of people care, but this is not the topic about Israel/Palestine.

    Feel free to create a separate thread for that if you are interested in discussing this topic.
     
  10. Latvian news website DELFI reports, that the Ukrainian army representative Leonide Matjuhin stated to BBC that the shots were fired by the rebels. He also believes, that there won't be any survivors and many people were just burned alive.

    Rebels killed and burned themselves again. That's some impressive dedication.
     
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    Is that donbas bloke the same one they had on vice news?
     
  12. If you mean "Doberman", then no.

    Red Cross instructs Russian aid convoy. Finally hard evidence that Russia is supplying the East with something.

    Ukraine claims to have captured a RF IFV, RF defense ministry says the claim is bollocks.

    Kiev in U-turn over claim that 'Russian tanks, artillery and 1,200 fighters' had been deployed in Eastern Ukraine as evidence fails to materialise.

    Russian Rocket Engines Delivered to U.S. Despite Escalating Tensions.
     
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    He's the american guy who was interviews by VICE, yes.
     
  14. In response to a military parade in Kiev, LPR and DPR hosted their own "parade" to spite UA government.

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