What is happening with Russia and Ukraine now?

Spokesperson. Btw, do you know who that Eastern European guy who asks about Ukraine is? He seems somewhat familiar.

 

I don't know his name, but I'll try to find more info on them. He sounded South African to me for some reason.

I do know that the guy with the scarf that annoys her all the time is Matthew Lee. He has garnered some attention online because he keeps asking uncomfortable questions every single time.

 

I thinks it's a war between russian and Europe in Ukraine

 

Trying to increase the post count, eh? I see what you did there...

 

You know those spambots that aren't really spambots, but actual people who are hired to go to peoples' forums and just discreetly fill the forum with spam? Yeah...... that. :spy:

 

Azov batallion (Infamous volunteer nationalists using reich symbols) are firing on Shirokino and posting it online:

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CNN report from the frontline near Mariupol:

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JKX Oil & Gas, owned by Kolomoisky, a shady oligarch who funded and armed the nationalist volunteer batallions in Ukraine, filed a $180 million court claim against Ukraine for "lost profits".

 

Totally unexpected - BBC took an interview from one of the snipers that was shooting at both police and the protesters on Maidan in 2013. The investigation was never finished, the case was stalled and left unresolved. The official story by the new Ukrainian government to this day is literally "Evil Berkut cops were firing on peaceful protesters that were peacefully burning cops alive with molotovs and peacefully beating them to death with chains and bats" (Some NSFW footage):

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UA soldiers are surrendering in Debaltsevo cauldron in droves. Largest group today numbering 70+ people has laid their weapons down:

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Ukrainian media still denies that UA soldiers are surrendering and calls any mention of the existance of the cauldron bollocks and pro-russian propaganda.

 

A Ukrainian ambassador and a chief adviser of the SBU Lubkivsky has reported on his facebook that Security Service of Ukraine has processed more than a thousand and is currently holding 118 people in custody for treason, sabotage, espionage and/or terrorism. Out of these 74 people were convicted and sentenced for up to 12 years in prison. Everyone's a traitor lately.

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U.N. Security Council signed a peace resolution on Ukraine.

Russia drafted a resolution, adopted unanimously by the 15-member council, in a move that U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power, described as "ironic" given the rebels fighting in eastern Ukraine are backed by Moscow.

The resolution endorsed the peace deal that was reached at all-night talks in the Belarussian capital Minsk last week and called for all parties to implement it. The council expressed "its full respect for the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine" and its "grave concern at the tragic events and violence in eastern regions of Ukraine."

 

Interesting. By the way, my impressions of the BBC are that much of it is really obvious government indoctrination, whilst some other features are surprisingly alternative and quite radical (this interview is something in between the two). Though it's a very large company so this is understandable.

 

Well, technically you are not wrong, BBC is a propaganda channel like any other.

The only reason you see a surge of these "now quite so anti-russian as before" articles on BBC specifically and in EU media in general lately is because they were allowed or perhaps explicitly ordered to do so. People like Ross Kemp or the guys from Frankfurter Allgemeine didn't suddenly realize what kind of monsters their governments were funding and supporting all this time, they knew it all along. They would be more than happy to whitewash Ukraine if its government wasn't fucking up so badly time and again.

Anyone can see that UA is fighting a losing war, even after mustering all available strength they are being pushed a dozen miles back. In the past three weeks they have lost pretty much everything they have managed to gather since September. Instead of revenge for Ilovaysk cauldron they got Ilovaysk cauldron 2.0. There is no military solution for this conflict and without war current UA government will cease to exist.

If EU wants to save the face when all the crimes like ethnic cleansing and mass murder are exposed they need to gradually turn the public opinion around.

 

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That video proves my viewpoint that DNR soldiers are pure idiots.

"12 sons won't return to their mothers and I will be psychological wreck"

Yep, becuase ukraine soldiers don't have mothers and that guy which lost the half of his body isn't psychological wrecked at all! -_-

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That fact that other people are dying doesn't make the death of those 12 Soldiers any less important, and i don't see how caring for your comrades makes you an "idiot", as you so eloquently put it.

Here are two accounts which post interesting material, one from the DNR perspective and the other from the Ukrainian:

http://luna-sweety.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0

http://makarov771.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0

 

It is a bit foolish to think that dehumanising the enemy is something exclusive to the DNR/LNR rebels. There is just as much hate from the Kiev side towards them (don't tell me you haven't heard all the things about slaughtering moskals and katsaps or that you haven't noticed the demonstrations in Kiev calling for mass murder of Russians, which is far from the frontline). If the hate wasn't mutual, this war wouldn't be happening. At the moment, both sides have such extensive propaganda that it's enough for former fellow citizens to continue shooting at each other.

 

Rebels have cleared out and captured Debaltsevo. It is estimated that 1-3 thousand UA soldiers are still in the encircled area:

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Rebels are evacuating those who chose to surrender. They are laying covering fire for Ukrainian soldiers as they are being fired upon by their "comrades". They lead them out one by one, load them onto a bus and drive them off.

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"Interview" with a Ukrainian soldier that has surrendered in Chernukhino (0:37):

More footage of surrendering soldiers, with the same officer as above overseeing it:

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More, Graham Philips interviewing surrendered soldiers:

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More, "I was conscripted, I didn't shoot anyone":

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Relatives of those who were sent to and surrounded in Debaltsevo are asking the officer if the ammunition is being resupplied and if the soldiers are allowed to attack during a ceasefire. Then they lose their shit and yell at the officer when he says that everything is fine and that there is no encirclement:

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They are panicking that their sons and husbands are getting killed because of the bad commanders. What's sad is that they were perfectly content with their sons and husbands killing people in Donbass.

 

The rebels have captured more than two hundred crates of artillery ammunition inside a former boarding school that Ukraine army transformed into a base of operations:

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Ukrainian soldiers have left their weapons behind and were allowed to leave the encirclement:

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Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko reports that despite heavy fighting the Ukrainian Army has completed a planned and organized withdrawal of forces from Debaltsevo. There was no encirclement, and Russia disgraced itself by offering them to surrender. He also gave a medal to the 128th brigade commander, whose people dropped their weapons and fled:

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Thing is that they are both active participant in a war and that he is trying to guilt trip someone which has it even worse, since he lost his comrades too and the half of his body. It's like complaining that you don't have any donouts left while talking to a starving african. Don't you see the irony? I do, atleast.

I'm not saying there isn't any hate from UA but atleast they are just people that enlisted to protect their land and are now trapped by war against the own country while DNR seems to be a bunch of guys who where not pleased with their current situation (as in not enough money,attention or action) and then join a group which finally gives their lives a sense, simillar how ISIS, PEGIDA and other groups get their members. Ofc I don't have evidence for it, but seeing how simillar they are in some aspects it makes sense to me.

That UA is often as bad is clear:
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