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What is your political opinion?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DrDarcy, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. rolfwar

    rolfwar Well-Known Member
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    Define "Good money". Most, if not all, of the profit earned through capitalism is exploitment of others.

    It is false that people in need are lazy and never work. If anything, it is quite the contrary.

    Moreover, i consider it a basis of human morality and personal ethics to help those who are in need when we are capable of helping them. If you disagree, i don't think you could be defined a human, if not just biologically.

    Also, most of the people who "have found a way to make some money" have not found anything, and thei are rather sons and relatives of already established and exploitative bourgeois.
     
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  2. Bamul

    Bamul S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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    I don't believe anyone should be forced to do any of those things. They can do them if they want, but I don't think they should or should not. It's not my choice to make - it's theirs.
    I agree.

    Aaron, that post was stupid beyond the belief. "Arbeit macht frei"... sound familiar?
     
  3. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    Oh im sorry how dare my part of the world prosper as yours falls apart. You cannot shift my views neither can i yours that is how it will be sorry if i am not going to give up my great way of life for you lazy lot
     
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    I'd like you to define "lazy" for the rest of us ignorant, non-working, leeches of society.
     
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    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    I meant greece mate ;)
     
  6. Darkbringer

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    Obviously your insight in this situation is limited. I went to Greece last summer. Peopl were working their asses off. This one guy worked as bartender and poolkeeper from 6 am to 9 pm. Go ahead and call this dude a lazy dude, I dare you.
    The real problem is that they have cheated in their budgets to get into the European Union, and being state-employed has been extremely profitable. A state employed engineer would make around 2.2x the money of a private employed ditto. Of course this ruins the economy, but saying that they are lazy in nature is stupid. They are used to the luxury of high wages, minimal work and early retirement, but now since this is gone, a lot of them work very hard. But there are only so many workplaces since a lot of companies have turned the key.
     
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    Well from that i must concede defeat good man
     
  8. rolfwar

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    Exactly! That's the bourgeoisie's core view.

    And that's why class struggle and class war is inevitable and undeniable.
     
  9. TotalAaron

    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    Oh okay when you start or as you are working whichever one describes your situation i assume you do not get paid? you dont want to be above every body or start class warfare so you work for the benifit of the state giving your income to charitys for the good of everyone correct?
     
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    Well that makes sense acussing a jew of being a nazi :lol:
     
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    OR you just pay your income taxes. and doesn't most job nowaday have a nonpaid-praction time?
     
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    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    No no no no good sir you could have more money than someone and that could lead to class warfare capitalisim is bad right so if you want change you must lead by example
     
  13. rolfwar

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    It's funny because jews think they are immune to being nazis/fascists.
    Israel is a nazifascist state under many POVs.
    You need to start using punctuation and clear sentences, i literally am unable to understand what you are saying.
     
  14. TotalAaron

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    Huh why dont you go cry in a corner for abit okay :)
     
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    I do not understand what you're trying to say as well.

    And with that reply you're clearly saying you're not here for a serious discussion.


    Are you saying that Greeks are lazy? What do you know? Have you visited Greece and have seen what people do here? and how they work?

    I don't think you have any idea.

    Those who have jobs work their asses off for very little money and yet they don't give up.
    Those who do not have a job, are out everyday searching for one.
    I've seen a very well studied man getting a job at a gas station, because there was literally nothing else.
     
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    TotalAaron The Oracle of Awesome

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    First i must admit rolfwar you do sound abit like Wolve_NZ at the moment :) are you upset that a country is defending itself or is it the fact that the country is run by the "Evil" jews :p

    second i am deeply hurt that my lack of punctuation has upset you, no i really am mate

    third i must draw your attention to the first post that was put there to make sure that a so called 'flamewar' would not happen

    i do hope you read the post clearly and precisely i mean i could have made you cry with all those 'bawd words'
     
  17. rolfwar

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    what you are doing, right here:
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    Please, do not put words in my mouth:
    I never said Jews are evil, nor do i discriminate Jews in anyway.
    Your hypocrisy is ridicolous. You pro-Israel just love to call honest criticism "anti-semitism" huh?

    Also, Israel is not defending itself. It is in fact enacting and promoting racial discrimination laws ( which don't allow Palestinians living inside Israel to have a normal job, education or life; Not even a driving license), Israel practises policies of property expropriation and deportation against Palestinians.
    It is the true "rogue-State", since it makes extensive use of prohibited weapons, such as White Phosphorus, and it repeatedly commits crimes of war and crimes against humanity, using heavy artillery and rockets barrages against innocent and harmless civilians; the genocide of Palestinians is de facto going on everyday.
     
  18. DrDarcy

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    *sees argument developing into flamewar*

    >abort thread

    >Abort Thread

    >Abort Thread!

    >ABORT THREAD!
     
  19. DrDarcy

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    *peeps back quickly*

    I don't claim to know much on the Greek situation. What is happening is not their fault. The banks and the government are to blame. The country borrowed too much money and then introduced some very unfair austerity measures. Greek Workers aren't lazy.

    The whole issue over Israel, the whole Zionist arguments were strong in '45 when the lack of a homeland led to the persecution of the Jewish people. Now, Palestine should be available for all.
     
  20. Bamul

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    I didn't accuse you of anything. I just want you to realize what sick stuff you are saying, because I would not be surprised to hear a Nazi say that... I was, however, really surprised to hear that from you. Also, even though I am not calling you a Nazi, I think it's worth to point out that people can have fascist views similar to Nazism without being a German. During WWII even Jews, Ukrainians, Poles and Belarusians helped the Nazis... sure, they were much lesser in numbers compared to Jews, Ukrainians, Poles and Belarusians that fought against the Nazis, but that doesn't change the fact that there were fascists on all sides. Also in Britain and the USA, there were groups that thought Hitler was a swell guy. Furthermore, Russia is quite possibly the country with the largest number of Neo-Nazis in the world today. Hitler claimed that Slavs (Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Belarusians and others) were an inferior race, just like he did with Jewish people. See the irony?

    Btw, you probably remember that I spoke out against Wolve_NZ with you because I do not approve of racism towards any ethnic group or nationality. And yet even though I have nothing against Jews, I also dislike Israel. Palestine isn't innocent either, but I have to say that Israel has committed much more crimes. You don't have to be an anti-Semite to dislike Israel. There are Jews who dislike Israel as well.

    What's ironic is that you had an argument with Wolve_NZ because he was being racist towards you and people of the same ethnoreligious group as you. Yet now, by saying that Greeks are lazy, you're being racist towards Greeks.