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World War 3

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GoodLordApollo, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to The Venus Project, we don't need those resources anymore. Wars will always be fought over three reasons and three reasons only - the three big cancers of this pest-ridden planet; religion, economics and politics.
     
  2. TheStalker

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    No, it really isn't. Doing a quick "venus project flawed" google search and linking the article that suits your retort is no match for the decades of solid research done by actual scientists and the hours upon hours of information found within the documentaries which, I'm willing to bet my nutsack on, you haven't seen nor read.
     
  4. I Hate Lurkers

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    I didn't think it was possible, but with one statement you have lost all of my respect for you. That has to be the most dislocating thing I've ever read. As someone who has family serving in the armed forces and as someone who has lost someone in 9/11, I'd like to kindly ask you to go fuck yourself.
     
  5. TheStalker

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    I lost people in 9/11 as well. But You gotta see past the fualts. 9/11 was an inside job. Many people on this forum agree. Though I feel you're losses. But I am not saying 100% 9/11 was fake. but I would LOVE for it not to be.
     
  6. TheStalker

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    I've resarched this thing since you first posted about it. Though if this plan works then That would truley be awesome. But don't make wild assumptions.
     
  7. rolfwar

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    How strange, why did the americans brutally shot Osama in a secret raid, whereas they brought Saddam Hussein, the former "Public Enemy no.1", in front of a jury and in a trial?
    Osama obviously something. And what about the plane that crashed in Virginia? How come they only managed to find small pieces but not the entire aircraft ( just like it always happens in crashes of this kind!).
    How come America, the most Bunkerisez nation in the world, wasn't able to fly a couple military jets and shoot those down?
    This and many other questions remain unanswered.

    On a side note, i find it ridicolous how you americans are simply unable to see how oppressive your government is. When it is to blame on third world countries and bomb their school, homes and hospitals, you are all marching down the streets with your stars&stripes flags. But when it is to blame on your own behaviour, on your own ignorance and your own blind obeying to the Pope that sits in the White House calling for 21st century crusades, then no, you are a communist, a terrorist or a radical.
    Only destruction of the ultra-imperialist,ultra-nationalist and ultra-capitalist America could solve the problem. And only you americans can do it.
     
  8. Darkbringer

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    I think everyone in this forum are radicals after seeing these comments. Things aren't just black and white like that.
     
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  9. TheStalker

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    ^ I agree man
     
  10. rolfwar

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    It is being moderate that is bringing this world to its destruction.
     
  11. RedJacketMan

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    Stalker, you're hardly one to talk about radicalism, as you think that 9/11 was faked. What proof do you have that the federal government, which is elected by Americans, would create a conspiracy causing the deaths of 2,977 Americans, 19 hijackers (who worked for the U.S.?!?!), the destruction of the World Trade Centers, the damage to the Pentagon. Why? To justify a war where more Americans can die? for what reason? And don't you pull out some B.S. explanation like oil!

    And Rofl. Really? You think the U.S. military has fighter jets patrolling our skies? The Pope giving marching orders to the white house? What age do we live in the 1870s? You think we are all marching down main street waving the flags and putting all our faith in the government? Again, I feel forced to ask you if you're not just screwing with us, for some sort of private joke? Crusades, really? Purely speculation on my part, but don't plane crashes have a habit of destroying the plane?

    And I love how you used the "innocuous question" to stir everything up. "Isn't it interesting...?" The raid on Osama was not secret by any real means. No government gives the public info on a military operation before or during it. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but perhaps the greatest critic of the United States is the American people itself.

    Criticism of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan enough for its own topic.

    There is good and evil in the world, white and black, light and darkness. But human interaction is never purely that simple. Its not an excuse to not strive for the truth, or ignore injustice, but it is just the way it is. For a person who seems to hate crusades, you talk as if you are going on a crusade of your own.

    EDIT: Okay, I still think I'm right, but we gotta calm down before this ends up like the Syria thread.
     
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  12. TheStalker

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    So you never heard of operation northwood? Where you know the US planned to bomb itself to go to war? though it was rejected the fact that it was planned doesn't stop the fact that it could be done later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
    ^ sorry for wiki link but I would have to link to like 4 places to get each of the different parts
    But as I said i do hope 9/11 was indeed not faked. But the evidence is not with it. Also plane crashes rarely destroy the plane. Planes are designed not to break in crashes.
    War pays man. It creates many jobs and helps restore economies. Just look at WW2 or 1.
    Though your right about the fighter jet thing. But even so the hijackers should not have known how to pilot such complex planes. Even if they did the usa does have security in the air. But that could have been avoided with the right precautions.
    There is also the problem that the hijacker list was taken hastley and many were not even on the plane.
    I have more stuff if you want to see it.
     
  13. RedJacketMan

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    Your forgetting that that was during the Cold War. The government then was different than the one now. And those policies were rejected, because they were damned stupid.

    There was an intelligence error. There were men who wanted to learn how to fly planes, but did not care about landing.

    This is kind of nuts.
     
  14. Wolve_NZ

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    If you watch the footage you can see molten steel from the building frame, thats why it collapse, if you've ever heated up steel to the point where it melts then you should know that anything supported by such will just topple, as the steel/Concrete construction needs the steel to be sound.
     
  15. rolfwar

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    That was a metaphor for the President of the USA.
    And yes i do think that any part of the American sky space is reachable by military aircrafts within minutes.
    And no, in 90% of the crashed the main part of the aircraft (to say it simple, where the people sit for the flight) remains not intact, but at least recognisable. In the Pennsylvania crash there were no pieces bigger than a seat.
     
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  16. Lagtagbag

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    Are you serious? How did you intend to restore an economy with your industry bombed to pieces? War doesn't pay, man. It COSTS.

    And what Wolve says is right. I recall reading that if the structure of the building had been built in a different way it could ahve withstandend the heat and the construction wouldn't had fallen
     
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  17. Darkbringer

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    Exactly. How else can a neutral country like Switzerland be one of the richest countries with over 1 million residents in the world?
     
  18. TheStalker

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    Where did I mention a building? :lol:
    I was saying how the plane was destroyed beyond recognition despite the crash not being on the level to do that.
     
  20. Lagtagbag

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    So the first link is the COST of the war, AKA the amount of tax payer money that goes into funding the war. Money that could go to, gee I don't know, education and health care? or social welfare? or paying of that ludicrous national debt USA has?

    AND yes a lot of jobs were created by ww2 and yes they had no economical problems because they didn't get bombed. I meant the world overall, not just USA. For example, helping rebuild europe made sweden pretty stinking rich and was on of the main reason we once had the third greatest airforce in the world.